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It is one of the reasons that I BCE’d 10 years ago when the LTA was £1.8M. Now I’ve rejoined and earning a new pension, then I would need to earn a massive new pension to breach it. Sadly, you can’t do that retrospectively, so those looking at McCloud Judgements will also need to carefully consider this.2007/08 £1.60m
2008/09 £1.65m
2009/10 £1.75m
2010/11 £1.80m
2011/12 £1.80m
2012/13 & 2013/14 £1.50m
2014/15 & 2015/16 £1.25m
2016/17 & 2017/18 £1.00m
2018/2019 £1.03m
2019/2020 £1.055m
2020/2021 £1.0731m
2021/2021 £1.0731m
It’s now FROZEN until 1 Apr 26, which means that the £1.0731m will slowly depreciate in real-term value. Sadly there isn’t much you can do about it retrospectively. However, those that were made redundant in the 2010 SDR redundancy rounds, that rejoined again later, should be able to take advantage of this if they received an IPP under AFPS75. Every cloud...
2008/09 £1.65m
2009/10 £1.75m
2010/11 £1.80m
2011/12 £1.80m
2012/13 & 2013/14 £1.50m
2014/15 & 2015/16 £1.25m
2016/17 & 2017/18 £1.00m
2018/2019 £1.03m
2019/2020 £1.055m
2020/2021 £1.0731m
2021/2021 £1.0731m
It’s now FROZEN until 1 Apr 26, which means that the £1.0731m will slowly depreciate in real-term value. Sadly there isn’t much you can do about it retrospectively. However, those that were made redundant in the 2010 SDR redundancy rounds, that rejoined again later, should be able to take advantage of this if they received an IPP under AFPS75. Every cloud...
The thought had crossed my mind. Pension sharing would be effective in reducing AA liability also. Would HMRC have legal redress if the divorcees cohabited, perhaps after a separation of roughly the same length as a standard RAF deployment?
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I’m still waiting for the tactical divorces.
Back in the day (well back ) we all used to spout about getting out cheaply by marching into the bosses office and outing oneself. Just bar spraff...never happened once*...except of course where it was true.
*to my knowledge...I'm sure some ppruner will be along shortly with a "true" story of just the opposite. Don't bother, I'm simply making the point that in the real world, this sort of thing is 99% talk, 1% action.
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I was thinking lightheartedly, and a little more in the abstract.
However, I do think that with the passing of time, as the concept of marriage becomes less important to many more of us, that there probably will be some very wealthy middle-aged couples who have no children and possibly no other disapproving family ties, who look upon divorce as a valid way of saving potentially, many hundreds of thousands of pounds. There is nothing to stop them then living together, and enjoying the same quality-of-life as before, but without the social constraints or benefits.
Do I think it’s likely to happen? No not particularly, although as you say there will be a minority who do decide to do it. More likely I think, it could appeal more to those couples who are probably already on the cusp of deciding to divorce anyway (possibly as a result of having to spend more time together during this Covid melodrama) and will look upon this potential financial saving as being a very valid reason, possibly the one that tips them over the edge, to do so.
However, I do think that with the passing of time, as the concept of marriage becomes less important to many more of us, that there probably will be some very wealthy middle-aged couples who have no children and possibly no other disapproving family ties, who look upon divorce as a valid way of saving potentially, many hundreds of thousands of pounds. There is nothing to stop them then living together, and enjoying the same quality-of-life as before, but without the social constraints or benefits.
Do I think it’s likely to happen? No not particularly, although as you say there will be a minority who do decide to do it. More likely I think, it could appeal more to those couples who are probably already on the cusp of deciding to divorce anyway (possibly as a result of having to spend more time together during this Covid melodrama) and will look upon this potential financial saving as being a very valid reason, possibly the one that tips them over the edge, to do so.
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I was thinking lightheartedly, and a little more in the abstract.
However, I do think that with the passing of time, as the concept of marriage becomes less important to many more of us, that there probably will be some very wealthy middle-aged couples who have no children and possibly no other disapproving family ties, who look upon divorce as a valid way of saving potentially, many hundreds of thousands of pounds. There is nothing to stop them then living together, and enjoying the same quality-of-life as before, but without the social constraints or benefits.
Do I think it’s likely to happen? No not particularly, although as you say there will be a minority who do decide to do it. More likely I think, it could appeal more to those couples who are probably already on the cusp of deciding to divorce anyway (possibly as a result of having to spend more time together during this Covid melodrama) and will look upon this potential financial saving as being a very valid reason, possibly the one that tips them over the edge, to do so.
However, I do think that with the passing of time, as the concept of marriage becomes less important to many more of us, that there probably will be some very wealthy middle-aged couples who have no children and possibly no other disapproving family ties, who look upon divorce as a valid way of saving potentially, many hundreds of thousands of pounds. There is nothing to stop them then living together, and enjoying the same quality-of-life as before, but without the social constraints or benefits.
Do I think it’s likely to happen? No not particularly, although as you say there will be a minority who do decide to do it. More likely I think, it could appeal more to those couples who are probably already on the cusp of deciding to divorce anyway (possibly as a result of having to spend more time together during this Covid melodrama) and will look upon this potential financial saving as being a very valid reason, possibly the one that tips them over the edge, to do so.
You can request one pension statement per year from Veterans UK at no charge, additional statements are chargeable. Or you can work it out yourself by using the online AFPS pension calculator and crunching the resulting numbers through the calculations detailed in this guide.
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As a PA flt Lt I had hoped I wouldn’t have to worry about this, but say I took out a SIPP and it did rather well, how would I find out the value of my AFPS pot? I want to utilise the tax benefits of contributing to a SIPP but I don’t want it to end up costing me more than it benefits...
[QUOTE=Al R;11061723]Your annual statement should give you the percentage attained towards your lifetime allowance. Are you married? If so, consider the merits and pros and cons of contributing into a pension in your wife or partner’s name. Or consider the ISA wrapper instead.[/QUOTEI agree with Al. If you have a spouse and they are a lower rate tax payer then you probably need to write to Glasgow to get your PIA report.
PAS Flt Lt is definitely higher rate territory, so you may find that you are close to the AA, but not definitely. It could make financial sense to get your 40% tax rebate up to the limit, then invest in your spouse’s.
you may need a good tax accountant to ensure you don’t breach your AA, and from experience the FPS steer you to a professional. If you do breach this year’s AA your PIA statement will tell you if you have part of last year’s allowance to use.
It’s a complex area, but totally doable, maybe even without an accountant. The money is there for claiming, and SIPPs are great fun!
PAS Flt Lt is definitely higher rate territory, so you may find that you are close to the AA, but not definitely. It could make financial sense to get your 40% tax rebate up to the limit, then invest in your spouse’s.
you may need a good tax accountant to ensure you don’t breach your AA, and from experience the FPS steer you to a professional. If you do breach this year’s AA your PIA statement will tell you if you have part of last year’s allowance to use.
It’s a complex area, but totally doable, maybe even without an accountant. The money is there for claiming, and SIPPs are great fun!
As an ex-PA Flt Lt who left age 53 and is still working/flying and in receipt of my mil pension (75%) I used a financial advisor to assess my position.
I now pay into a pension for my wife - very tax efficient but haven't taken the option of increasing my contributions to my current work pension as that would take me very close to the LTA.
I now pay into a pension for my wife - very tax efficient but haven't taken the option of increasing my contributions to my current work pension as that would take me very close to the LTA.
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As an ex-PA Flt Lt who left age 53 and is still working/flying and in receipt of my mil pension (75%) I used a financial advisor to assess my position.
I now pay into a pension for my wife - very tax efficient but haven't taken the option of increasing my contributions to my current work pension as that would take me very close to the LTA.
I now pay into a pension for my wife - very tax efficient but haven't taken the option of increasing my contributions to my current work pension as that would take me very close to the LTA.
Most ‘service wives’ have very little independent pension provision. Starting a pension for them might ‘only’ produce 20% tax relief uplift (compared to 40% for a PAS flier) but hardly any will pay tax on relevant income, and they will be less likely to suffer via regulatory shift. Similarly, consider the venerable ISA.
Al R - starting a pension for my wife and paying in the maximum - £14,400 ISTR - generated a Govt top-up of over £3000 making her fund up to nearly £18K and apparently I can do that every year she is still working.
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I see that that old perennial, the Lifetime Allowance, is in the news again. The Times is trailing possible savage cuts down to (possibly) £800,000 or so. Stand by for a bonfire of the Squadron Leaders.
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Al R - starting a pension for my wife and paying in the maximum - £14,400 ISTR - generated a Govt top-up of over £3000 making her fund up to nearly £18K and apparently I can do that every year she is still working.
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This benefit is also useful. It allows NI credits to be made to family members (typically grandparents) who care for family members under the age of 12 whilst mum or dad works.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...its-fact-sheet
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...its-fact-sheet
The rapid march from a '2-star and above' issue to potentially wg cdrs and below has been relentless - especially for a retrospective change in tax status.