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Old 16th May 2021, 16:26
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New fleet at Marham

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ters-work.html
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So you ride to work on your e-scooter (to reduce your carbon footprint) then climb into your F35 and burn holes in the sky for an hour turning jet fuel into heat, noise & CO2...

Seems like window dressing to me. Maybe if every pilot flew one hour less a year instead that might make more of a difference?
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I hope these are fully road-legal and compliant, if used outside the base. Most e-scooters are not.
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Originally Posted by WHBM
I hope these are fully road-legal and compliant, if used outside the base. Most e-scooters are not.
apparently they are banned on some RAF Stations, will be interesting when others start buying their own at Marham.
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Those of a certain age will remember the station bike store where one could sign out a bike for the duration of your tour, resplendent in RAF blue grey with an individual serial number. Usually run by one of the SWOs minions and you were required to take it to MTSS for its annual service.
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I never signed a bike out but I recall having to visit for the obligatory signature when clearing, the only occasion I ever visited the bike store on any station.
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Ken, I remember the same thing, including a "semi-inquisition" when I actually left the RAF. (Never had a "bike" Sir, find that hard to believe!)
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£45000? Obviously there’s too much money.
I can’t believe, with the debt COVID has landed us all with, that some halfwit thinks the public will applaud £45000k for scooters. ASTRA seems the launchpad for stupid ideas, really stupid ideas and barking mad ideas.
One piece of good news, but not ready for release yet, is the soon to be available lump sum whilst still serving. That, plus selling back unused leave may be good ideas, but totally outclassed by the crass stupidity of scooters for work at the tax payers expense.
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It was always a bit of a jolly jape to amend the Queen Bee's phone no. in the station phone directory to read 'Station bike store'....
In the days when there was a station phone directory...and a Queen Bee....and a bike store....

What utter bolleaux these toy scooters are. No doubt some utter ar$e VSO has been taken in by Saint Thunderbox and her warmist cronies and will get a gong for such nonsense?
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Open to slow-moving ridicule or worse? In the half-light on the muddy, puddled shoulders of long, long exposed country roads in the rain and the icy wind, yes, a joy to contemplate.
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Who’s, whoa, whoa Sweet child of mine...

Countdown begins. Forget the scooters (surely bikes with mudguards to prevent wet bottoms would have been just as good but then the scooters could be fun for the first five minutes) but please elaborate on your last post.

Early lump sum and leave sell-back. Where the hell did those little nuggets come from?!

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Aren't these scooters made in China and if controlled by an app they would carry a location chip (GPS) and be connected to the WWW. If so they could provide useful info to an interrogater ("look your friend is on his scooter visiting your house right now, he has been doing this every Tuesday morning when you were at the mess doing the minutes")
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What next? Every block of 12 scooters get allocated a sqn number and paint job😉

in all seriousness (copied from another site)

Who controls them if anybody?
Are they obtained through MT complete with chargers?
Issued by stackers as personal kit?
DI required, user responsible for serviceability etc etc?
Safety kit required? Helmet, knee pads, elbow pads etc
Is any insurance supplied, needed, expected?
What happen when someone falls off breaks an arm or whatever?
Has a collision with another mode of transport?
Has a collision with a pedestrian?
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E-scooter trials: guidance for users - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

It is currently illegal to use an e-scooter on a public road although trials are taking place in some locations. I am making a big assumption that the three mile journey from Quarters to work is indeed on public roads and not just a trip around the peri-track?
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Do you honestly think that, in 2021, you will have been the first person to consider the health and safety implications of such an initiative? This is the same Air Force that won’t let anyone ride a bike on base without the user wearing a dayglo vest.

I feel fairly sure that the use of the scooters will have been health and safety’d to the Nth degree and will probably make it easier to walk than to risk the ire (and resultant admin) of the person who has been put in charge of administering them.

Unless of course they have simply got the people behind the Boris bikes of London to sponsor the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by Wensleydale
E-scooter trials: guidance for users - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

It is currently illegal to use an e-scooter on a public road although trials are taking place in some locations. I am making a big assumption that the three mile journey from Quarters to work is indeed on public roads and not just a trip around the peri-track?
It definitely used to be a public road between Quarters and Main Gate,I was there 1976/77 and we required a road licence (F1629B) to deliver the Bosses Mini Van to his Quarters some mornings.
I did have a 1629B from other camps but the MT wallah wanted to test us anyway - he had some business in K Lynn so my 'test' consisted of taking him into K Lynn and back without frightening him too much - his comment was ''well I suppose you do not have too many bad habits''
There were not too many volunteers LOL but it was sometimes handy to have a road licence for trips away from camp
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"3 miles from their quarters...." where did the Daily Wail get that tosh. My OMQ was on Churchland Road, a 5 minute walk to the Mess.

But wait, they'll need the scooters to get round all their secondary duties......
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
Do you honestly think that, in 2021, you will have been the first person to consider the health and safety implications of such an initiative? This is the same Air Force that won’t let anyone ride a bike on base without the user wearing a dayglo vest.

I feel fairly sure that the use of the scooters will have been health and safety’d to the Nth degree and will probably make it easier to walk than to risk the ire (and resultant admin) of the person who has been put in charge of administering them.

Unless of course they have simply got the people behind the Boris bikes of London to sponsor the whole thing.

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well let’s hope that the h&s data is passed to the rest of the RAF where they are banned.
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This is the same Air Force that won’t let anyone ride a bike on base without the user wearing a dayglo vest.
Seeing as Mr WHBM Senior went through WW2 (Halifaxes, Topcliffe, among others) without any injury EXCEPT on a bike riding round the peri track (oncoming WAF in a car crashed into him), maybe the H&S mob do have some idea ...
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How fast can you turn 180 degrees on them? Just thinking about the next beep fitness test....
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