F14 intercepts Space Shuttle, ah no it’s a Vulcan
Thanks JTO, only affiliation with the A-3 was our swim/water survival instructor at basic, rode through a ditching in one after a hook/wire fail or cold cat, forget which. Nothing like having a guy teach who has been there.
Very unlikely to have picked them up visually given the size of the windows. Electronic detection would have depended on what was fitted / serviceable and being monitored. If they were simply on a transit they may well not have been paying too much attention.
The mention of the Vulcan pilot eating an egg sandwich reminded me of a 1970's incident report of an RAF Phantom pilot or navigator, who was about to eat a cheese sandwich when it spontaneously combusted as a result of its proximity to the oxygen flow from his face mask.
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Wasn't the Skywarrior nicknamed 'All 3 Dead' by crews, in reference to the original A3D designation and the lack of ejection seats, especially when compared to its' cousin the B-66 Destroyer?
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Vulcan passive warning
Back in the early/mid 70s I recall being claimed as a kill by an F14 at 90 miles range on the nose. We were at FL430 doing a bit of boring MRR on Ex Dawn Patrol)?) out of Malta. Some AI radars we could not hear when in particular modes, and I certainly did not hear that one coming.
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I have read of a case involving a Vulcan & UFO in the Bay Of Biscay 1970's. In which they saw the object through the cockpit window, and the nav had picked it up on his radar & the crew filed a report.
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During the late 1970s, as part of my OCU course on the Puma helicopter, we did a Germany “trainer” flight. My instructor booked us into the US Army helicopter base at Heidelberg for a night stop because he had friends there. As we ground taxied in, it seemed that almost half the base personnel came out to watch us. We were very impressed with such hospitality until we discovered that most of them thought we were flying a defecting Warsaw Pact “Hip” helicopter.....
At that time, there were no Pumas based in West Germany and there is a vague resemblance, I suppose. I wouldn’t have fancied our chances in the event of the Cold War going “hot”; we’d have been shot at by both sides!
At that time, there were no Pumas based in West Germany and there is a vague resemblance, I suppose. I wouldn’t have fancied our chances in the event of the Cold War going “hot”; we’d have been shot at by both sides!
Not for the first time. landing at Souda Bay in '72 we were described by a couple of USAF aircraft behind as a Liberator, and again in '75 on the way into Mildenhall. Recognition never seemed to be their (US) strongpoint - even in a Chinook we were described as hostile on one occasion.
The mention of the Vulcan pilot eating an egg sandwich reminded me of a 1970's incident report of an RAF Phantom pilot or navigator, who was about to eat a cheese sandwich when it spontaneously combusted as a result of its proximity to the oxygen flow from his face mask.
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During the late 1970s, as part of my OCU course on the Puma helicopter, we did a Germany “trainer” flight. My instructor booked us into the US Army helicopter base at Heidelberg for a night stop because he had friends there. As we ground taxied in, it seemed that almost half the base personnel came out to watch us. We were very impressed with such hospitality until we discovered that most of them thought we were flying a defecting Warsaw Pact “Hip” helicopter.....
At that time, there were no Pumas based in West Germany and there is a vague resemblance, I suppose. I wouldn’t have fancied our chances in the event of the Cold War going “hot”; we’d have been shot at by both sides!
At that time, there were no Pumas based in West Germany and there is a vague resemblance, I suppose. I wouldn’t have fancied our chances in the event of the Cold War going “hot”; we’d have been shot at by both sides!
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28 Sqn crews laughingly said the Flying Leathernecks thought they thought they were in a time warp looking at the Wessex thinking of their generation before flying the UH-34D Seahorse from Da Nang 2 and half decades earlier...
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No, he was the other one! The clip shown above is part of a long interview where he goes into more detail about the film and other parts of his career. One thing he mentions was that they wanted the F14s to have the wings swept (cos it looks cool) flying behind the T6s, acting as Zeros, which obviously wasn’t going to work!
The A-7E emergency was actually a real incident as they were filming and kept the scene in...
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I have now watched the full two hour interview, and there are some great stories and advice in there -not only for aviation.
(cannot provide a link here but it's in the same channel as you probably already know)
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Do interceptors sometimes fly close to their stalling speed? Yes. Sometimes the target is more manoevrable at those speeds than the Interceptor. I recall a Lightning was lost in the 70s whilst shadowing a Shackleton posing as a defector duringm a Taceval. The Lightning was eventually found with the canopy open and the ejector seat on board but the pilot (a US exchnge officer) was never found.
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Do interceptors sometimes fly close to their stalling speed? Yes. Sometimes the target is more manoevrable at those speeds than the Interceptor. I recall a Lightning was lost in the 70s whilst shadowing a Shackleton posing as a defector duringm a Taceval. The Lightning was eventually found with the canopy open and the ejector seat on board but the pilot (a US exchnge officer) was never found.
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