Extinction Rebellion desecrate cenotaph.

[BVRAAM]

Originally Posted by Blue_Circle

I always question the motives of people when the 'conversation' they want to start is patently only ever going to be at full volume and accompanied by a chest poke.

I was furious when I saw it the first time, this morning.

I went away, made a cup of coffee and thought about it.

The message isn't wrong, and I watched the video multiple times.

[Asturias56]

XR?? Bunch of eco-warriors currently infiltrated by the Socialist Labour League (Trots) and Young Communists of GB - both are models for the "Peoples Front for the Liberation of Judea" etc etc

[Chugalug2]

Originally Posted by pr00ne

It was a publicity stunt to attract media attention to their cause. Seems it worked.

Oh, and the Cenotaph was opened in 1920 to commemorate those lives lost in WW1. There was no threat to our freedom in WW1 at all.

Really? If we'd lost WW1 and the Central Powers were victorious then what price for UK freedoms? Until the USA entered the war such an outcome was a distinct possibility. Those who fought for us on the Western Front and elsewhere were conscious of that possibility and I venture to suggest it was part of why they endured the carnage as they did. It is of course portrayed as nothing of the sort now, that they were Lions led by Donkeys, victims of a class ridden society whereby the poor died so that the rich might get richer. I think that is an insult to the memory of the fallen who died in defence of all our freedoms. Germany suffered terribly in the 'Peace' that ensued, to the extent that they pinned their faith in a regime that soon stripped them of their freedoms. Why should it have been different if the roles were reversed?

As to XR, of course they wanted to cause outrage in order to bring publicity for their cause. Did they succeed? Yes. Were they right to do so? No, it's just another group who know what is right along with all the others that do so too.

[NutLoose]

Says it all really...... what it REALLY is about.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54840215

[Tashengurt]

I had my ticket and was happily about to jump on the outrage bus... but I see no stamping on wreaths, no desecration. A bit of a wanky protest but climate change affects us all and if we don't pay attention to it the world will suffer as surely as if those we remember hadn't been willing to sacrifice their lives.
There's more than one way to squander a generation.

[KiloB]

The sooner this rebellion is made extinct the better. They are always happy to use what is effectively force, to inconvenience or upset ordinary people going about their normal lives.

[MissChief]

Our freedoms are rapidly dwindling. XR are a bad lot, and their effect is to give an excuse to our "authorities" to clamp down further.

XR, (like BLM and others) are too offensive in their own way to garner mainstream support. But they certainly give an impetus to our governing bodies in the UK to restrict liberty.

[etudiant]

The model is to provoke halfhearted rebellions that can then be wholeheartedly crushed. Has worked for authoritarians for millennia.

[highflyer40]

Originally Posted by Asturias56

XR?? Bunch of eco-warriors currently infiltrated by the Socialist Labour League (Trots) and Young Communists of GB - both are models for the "Peoples Front for the Liberation of Judea" etc etc

Ok first up I’m not a climate fanatic. Think we should just adapt as we go. It’s what we are good at. Not changing human nature.

That out of the way this above post is so 50’s. Who cares if they are supported by communists, Buddhists, or the pope himself. This is the 21st century and I think we are beyond the “Red Scare”.

The world has moved on. The day of the major nations going to war for land is long gone. They have all figured out there is no reason, as it can’t be won. You may conquer but you will never rule. Economic war is the way to go now which all major countries have accepted. China is well into this and is leading the fight and to be fair I’m not sure anyone can stop them. Some minor countries with no major economy to speak of still opt for the confrontational approach, but in the main tanks rolling down Main Street are a thing of the past.

[radeng]

If they really believe in a long term approach, they would get themselves sterilised to reduce the world population - although it could well be too late.

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by radeng

If they really believe in a long term approach, they would get themselves sterilised to reduce the world population - although it could well be too late.

And light their farts to cut down on the methane output.

[tonker]

The virus deniers were pepper sprayed, and a piper assaulted.

Just saying

[Finningley Boy]

Originally Posted by pr00ne

It was a publicity stunt to attract media attention to their cause. Seems it worked.

Oh, and the Cenotaph was opened in 1920 to commemorate those lives lost in WW1. There was no threat to our freedom in WW1 at all.

After the invasion of Belgium, conducted in order to invade France, to deliver a knock out blow to the latter so they couldn't/wouldn't come to the aid of Russian and Serbia, who were next on the German list of nations to confront over the perceived threat to Austria-Hungary. What would have happened if we kept our selves to our selves? I'm not saying this wouldn't have been the better course of action, but had the German Schlieffen plan worked? Also, what about the WW2 crowd? they are represented by the Cenotaph, always have been as well as those who have been placed in harms way since.

FB

[Trumpet trousers]

I think there's a mistake in the veteran's surname, it should be Bell-end

[Compass Call]

I suppose a public hanging is out of the question?

[George Glass]

Worth having a read of the Bio of the founder of XR on Wikipedia.
Good for a chuckle.
” Extreme weather “ events apparently destroyed his tiny farm in Wales.
He might like to visit Australia !
Is there something in the water in the UK at the moment?

[Fareastdriver]

Credit to the BBC for a change. They didn't feature it on the national news.

[typerated]

It is a utterly disrespectful act - no sympathy.

But - I totally understand their concern.
Like the science that says COVID is bad and will kills lots of people, especially if governments don't do hard lockdowns.
Climate/ Environmental science has been pointing out that we marching toward a catastrophe. Orders of magnitude worse for humans and the planet than COVID if we don't change our ways in an dramatic fashion.

we disregard / don't act to our extreme peril.

[Training Risky]

I am currently watching this idiot on morning TV. He just had his ar$e handed to him by Afghan veteran Marine Ben McBean, but still refuses to admit what he did was wrong. Sometimes I feel like putting my foot through the tv and sending ITV and XR the bill!

[Asturias56]

"That out of the way this above post is so 50’s. Who cares if they are supported by communists, Buddhists, or the pope himself. This is the 21st century and I think we are beyond the “Red Scare”.

HF40 if you look at my posting history you'll see I'm no red-baiter and that I believe that climate change is happening and is a big issue

XR started out as a group of people who believed in direct action against climate change - I'm no fan of direct action when there are other avenues to follow but that's what they were. In the last year or so they have been infiltrated by those who want to turn it into another anti-capitalist, anti- business, anti-police action group. The idea is of course to provoke retaliation and radicalise the membership on other issues. It isn't a "Red Scare" - its what is actually happening - the YCLUK is on record telling it's members to join XR for this very reason.

The real issue is that XR turn off more and more people (even Greenpeace deals with them using a very long pole) and they damage the whole climate change debate