Flights to Berlin in the Sixties.
In the 1960s, BEA and PanAm used Tempelhof and Air France used Tegel.
Commander Taco: I did my Viscount course with the late Joe G****s who had a Canadian connection. Possibly your Dad?
Commander Taco: I did my Viscount course with the late Joe G****s who had a Canadian connection. Possibly your Dad?
Pan Am used Tegel for individual long range jet flights as well back then.
DC-8:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...n-Am/pan-am12/
DC-8:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...n-Am/pan-am12/
Cheers,
’Taco
DeanoP , that arrangement carried on into the '90s . 2 RAF crews were trained on 737-236s , every 3 months they'd do a sim session , and the j/s to TXL , next day go cct. bashing at Gatow to maintain currency . Was not well known , but met a LGW trainer '' 'wot are you doing in Berlin ? '' . ''Cct. bashing tomorrow at Gatow ''. In times of tension , we civvy crews and pax would get off leaving empty a/c piloted by the RAF boys to fly the corridors , keeping them open .
Chugalug [ still waiting to hear the true story of Maastricht ATC- Dan-Air piss up ] . Good visit to the BASC . Still remember the 4 signatures on cert. of no objection needing to be obtained and passed on B4 we'd get start clearance . Still have enamel lapel badge of BASC. Was told that the Templehof airport buiding in plan view is shaped like a German Eagle . Next VMC departure off 08 confirmed it . Body , wings , head , talons .
DCS99 , must have crossed paths . Did Haj-TXL-HAJ-MAN-GLA on 9/11/89 . Next day in GLA looking for the Hebrides wx , all I could find was the Wall falling down ! The Berlin 'gurls 'n guys , not all German , some Brits and Yanks . About 2 dozen after Balpa protested on their behalf , [ It was after all a mainline BA base , thus should have been a base transfer , Not reselection ] ! . They transferred to BA LHR base . Larger amount transferred to Lufti . The rest I know not as we , the ATP fleet had left TXL in Autumn 91 , going back to roots of Highlands and Islands. Before the base completely shut .
rgds condor .
Chugalug [ still waiting to hear the true story of Maastricht ATC- Dan-Air piss up ] . Good visit to the BASC . Still remember the 4 signatures on cert. of no objection needing to be obtained and passed on B4 we'd get start clearance . Still have enamel lapel badge of BASC. Was told that the Templehof airport buiding in plan view is shaped like a German Eagle . Next VMC departure off 08 confirmed it . Body , wings , head , talons .
DCS99 , must have crossed paths . Did Haj-TXL-HAJ-MAN-GLA on 9/11/89 . Next day in GLA looking for the Hebrides wx , all I could find was the Wall falling down ! The Berlin 'gurls 'n guys , not all German , some Brits and Yanks . About 2 dozen after Balpa protested on their behalf , [ It was after all a mainline BA base , thus should have been a base transfer , Not reselection ] ! . They transferred to BA LHR base . Larger amount transferred to Lufti . The rest I know not as we , the ATP fleet had left TXL in Autumn 91 , going back to roots of Highlands and Islands. Before the base completely shut .
rgds condor .
JW411 - great stuff, matey. Thank you. The only corridor issues I had during my 2 tours in West Germany usually involved evicting fragrant but temporary occupants from, or clearing up the mess outside, my room in Block 40 Laarparts, often after a ‘corridor party’.
(have I forgotten all about your exploits or did you just never tell?....til now.)
(have I forgotten all about your exploits or did you just never tell?....til now.)
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Dear Chevvron,
Hughie Green was flying a Cessna 310, in the Southern Corridor
Stuttgart / Gatow when the Soviets opened fire. The a/c received
some damage. Green replaced the a/c with a Cessna 337. which
was often parked outside the Fairey hangar at MAN, during his
recording his show at ABC studios in Didsbury, Manchester. The
C.337 .was registered to G and M Air Interests. The "M" was his
friend, Michael Miles, who also had a TV game show called "Take
your Pick"
Lance Shippey
Hughie Green was flying a Cessna 310, in the Southern Corridor
Stuttgart / Gatow when the Soviets opened fire. The a/c received
some damage. Green replaced the a/c with a Cessna 337. which
was often parked outside the Fairey hangar at MAN, during his
recording his show at ABC studios in Didsbury, Manchester. The
C.337 .was registered to G and M Air Interests. The "M" was his
friend, Michael Miles, who also had a TV game show called "Take
your Pick"
Lance Shippey
LS, I believe that Hughie was once obliged to help the Police at Heathrow when passing through there as a pax. They believed him to be somewhat tired and emotional, but he wasn't that tired and emotional as not to give his name as Michael Miles...
We were there too !
Autair based two Vickers Vikings at Templehof during the early 1960s. During the week the aircraft flew daily to Schipol under a contract to uplift flowers for The Berlin Market whilst at week-ends seats were fitted and passenger charters were undertaken.
G-AHPB 1964. Photo Ralf Manteuful with thanks.
G-AGRW landing Templehof 1966. Photo credit Ralf Manteuful with thanks.
Read all about it in the first few parts of this excellent book.....https://books.google.co.uk/books/abo...AJ&redir_esc=y
G-AHPB 1964. Photo Ralf Manteuful with thanks.
G-AGRW landing Templehof 1966. Photo credit Ralf Manteuful with thanks.
Read all about it in the first few parts of this excellent book.....https://books.google.co.uk/books/abo...AJ&redir_esc=y
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I used to fly the corridors in the 60's
There was a question further back, enquiring what happened to the local BEA cabin staff!
From recollection, a number turned up on BEA front doors in Camberley et al.
The introduction went like " E doesn't luff you E luffs me!!
There was a question further back, enquiring what happened to the local BEA cabin staff!
From recollection, a number turned up on BEA front doors in Camberley et al.
The introduction went like " E doesn't luff you E luffs me!!
I flew up and down in a Britannia Airways Boeing 737 during 1987/88. The flight was regular, every Wednesday if I recall and always used to calibrate the radar.
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I flew the Dominie in the RAF (not 1960's though) and we regularly operated from Gutersloh to Gatow via the Centre Corridor to exercise the freedom of the corridors. This would have been 1980's.
In summer of 1969 I flew into Tempelhof on a Pan Am 727. (My dad had been assigned to work in West Berlin). Speaking of dad, he got to fly in and out of the Berlin during the Blockade (he was a courier during the Blockade while it was happening). From his stories it was usually C-47's and C-54's that he flew in. Dad will be 94 in May. The camera with which most of the pictures of my siblings and me were taken was a either a Leica or a Zeiss (it was black, and it folded open, acdordian lens) that Dad traded a few cartons of cigarettes and some chocolate for when he was a GI. Mom didn't start using an instamatic until the mid 1980's.
Gail Halverson's son (Terry) and I were in the same junior high school in West Berlin. (He was a year ahead of me).
Colonel Halverson was, as a JO, somewhat famous as The Candy Bomber during the Blockade.
Gail Halverson's son (Terry) and I were in the same junior high school in West Berlin. (He was a year ahead of me).
Colonel Halverson was, as a JO, somewhat famous as The Candy Bomber during the Blockade.
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Chugalug2:
I visited BASC about ten days before the Berlin wall came down, during my RAF time. We were given a guided tour of the building and as we walked along the corridor, I suddenly experienced a very strange and unsettling choking sensation, the likes of which I'd never had before (and not had since). At that stage I hadn't been made aware of the ghastly history of that room. I did go in but couldn't stay there for long; I found the atmosphere too oppressive.
Off duty they were teaching the Russians the game of darts, much to the cost of the walls of the BASC building. It had been the Prussian equivalent of the Old Bailey and was used by the NAZI People's Court for the trial of those involved in the 20 July Bomb Plot. Once convicted they were to be hung (by piano wire, "like cattle!") within two hours on Hitler's express orders. Executions were to be carried out across town at Moabit. With round the clock bombing this created a logistical problem and was partially overcome it is suspected within the Court building itself, for in the basement there was still a crudely made braced beam high up on the wall. Our guide explained that in the top of the beam were grooves as though worn into it by wires under tension...
