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Commonwealth War Graves Commission Website

Old 13th Aug 2020, 15:54
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Commonwealth War Graves Commission Website

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) website contains, inter alia, details of all British Commonwealth and certain other nationalities for both World Wars, who were killed or died and it has just undergone a facelift.

The result is dreadful and to launch the new system with so many errors is disappointing.

The sort of errors which have been found include the following:
A date format, stated to be DD/MM/YY which returns an error because it should be DD/MM/YYYY.
The selection of records against a given period of two dates does not work properly
The records selected are not always the ones which are returned to the researcher.
There appear to be issues with some of the 'pull down' choices.

It seems the new system was not tested fully and it has remained in use for several weeks despite errors being notified to CWGC.

This is an organisation which has always enjoyed a particularly good reputation but unless someone gets a grip of the website soon, that reputation will be blown apart.

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Old 13th Aug 2020, 16:36
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I don't like the new site at all. It looks and feels cheap and tinny.

The older version felt much more robust.

Lets hope it gets sorted out soon.

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Old 13th Aug 2020, 20:00
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Very sad - the old searchable database was very good. You may recall I used it a few years ago to extract the (remarkably high number of) WW1 RAF graves in Wales.

My chum used to be a wheel in CWGC, but sadly he's retired so I can't prod him about it! Some nautical chap who married well took over I believe..........
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Old 13th Aug 2020, 21:14
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Whilst I am probably as old as you guys I'm lucky to work with/for a whole lot of highly paid and immensely talented software developers dudes and dudesses...so with nay hint of cycnicism allow me to introduce you to some modern software development terminolgy...

agile development...a more effective (cost, time and resource) of developing "stuff" than the old way of project management, whereby you get to where you want to go by way of "stories" "sprints" and "scrums".

minimal viable product...shipping something that sort of works then improving it operationally.

These are industry standards now...no doubt someone will do it the old-fashioned way, but it will cost 20X as much.

As to look an feel...a quick glance shows it to be "mobile responsive" absolutley no *****er gives a ***** what a website looks like on a Windows PC. Check it out on your Iphone and see what it looks like on that.

Or not...it's your call. You can be old, or act old...it's a free world...more or less

PS TBC...I have nothing to do with this website...in case anyone thought different.
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Old 14th Aug 2020, 09:30
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Nope - it's still [email protected]

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Old 14th Aug 2020, 09:52
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Dicky Dangle,

The situation you describe is fine as long as the story, sprints and scrums are dealt with by responding to the experience in use and the 'minimum viable product' is not seen as the conclusion.

If a system, however developed, does not meet the criteria required by the user, then it's not what the sponsor/owner paid for. One might allow for rapid development and cheaper etc but if it doesn't deliver the users' requirements it's no good - same as much else in the world!

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Old 14th Aug 2020, 13:20
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Nope - it's still [email protected]
I have just tried the new site and could not agree more. Whatever happened to the idea of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it".
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Whatever happened to the idea of "If it ain't broken, don't fix it".
It's been replaced by " I need to look as if I'm doing something, otherwise they might decide they can do without me"
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer View Post
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) website contains, inter alia, details of all British Commonwealth and certain other nationalities for both World Wars, who were killed or died and it has just undergone a facelift.

The result is dreadful and to launch the new system with so many errors is disappointing.

The sort of errors which have been found include the following:
A date format, stated to be DD/MM/YY which returns an error because it should be DD/MM/YYYY.
The selection of records against a given period of two dates does not work properly
The records selected are not always the ones which are returned to the researcher.
There appear to be issues with some of the 'pull down' choices.

It seems the new system was not tested fully and it has remained in use for several weeks despite errors being notified to CWGC.

This is an organisation which has always enjoyed a particularly good reputation but unless someone gets a grip of the website soon, that reputation will be blown apart.

Old Duffer
Just been on the Website chaps.

I put two names in and both came up - no DOB. Name and First World War only.

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