Women pilots...?
As fobotsco has now deleted his unpleasant response, I have also edited this:
You may recall that some of us tried to help a bloke who was given some harsh treatment from the PPRuNe jackals when he was rejected by the RN. Another male PPRuNer from a UAS came here to hold with one of sqns at the Secret Oxonian Airbase after e-mailing me and yet another did his night qualification at our flying club after e-mailing me.
I make no secret about my dislike for predatory lounge lizards making blatantly sexist and abusive comments - and I suspected that it would only be a matter of time before some puerile comments would be directed towards those posting advice to gunray on this thread. So please keep your 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' comments to yourself - there is a difference between Talk and Banter. (cf Stork and Butter if you don't spot the allegory).
You may recall that some of us tried to help a bloke who was given some harsh treatment from the PPRuNe jackals when he was rejected by the RN. Another male PPRuNer from a UAS came here to hold with one of sqns at the Secret Oxonian Airbase after e-mailing me and yet another did his night qualification at our flying club after e-mailing me.
I make no secret about my dislike for predatory lounge lizards making blatantly sexist and abusive comments - and I suspected that it would only be a matter of time before some puerile comments would be directed towards those posting advice to gunray on this thread. So please keep your 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' comments to yourself - there is a difference between Talk and Banter. (cf Stork and Butter if you don't spot the allegory).
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Don't be too hard on poor old Beagle, remember the only place he gets to talk to girls is on the internet!
He doesn't realise how us 'predatory lounge lizards' get preyed on by women when we're out for a quiet drink with our mates then get forced to perform unspeakable sexual acts(sometimes twice!) before being cast aside like an old tissue with no thought for our feelings............or did I dream it?
He doesn't realise how us 'predatory lounge lizards' get preyed on by women when we're out for a quiet drink with our mates then get forced to perform unspeakable sexual acts(sometimes twice!) before being cast aside like an old tissue with no thought for our feelings............or did I dream it?
Quite so, Wholi'! Couldn't agree more with your sentiments. Perhaps it was chucking out time and he'd DNCO'd - or maybe it was just his 'time of the moth'?
Incidentally, fellow PPRuNers, you may perhaps wonder why the likes of Wholi' and myself answer these queries in public, rather than just e-mailing direct. It's because there may be others with similar queries but who are, perhaps, too wary to ask. Hence they can also receive advice.
gunray, at present we have a UAS student doing her PPL at our flying club - she also wants to be a RAF pilot. She's away next week but will be back the week after - if you like I'll ask her to e-mail you with a contact number so that you can discuss the conflicting demands of degree work and flying with her directly.
Incidentally, fellow PPRuNers, you may perhaps wonder why the likes of Wholi' and myself answer these queries in public, rather than just e-mailing direct. It's because there may be others with similar queries but who are, perhaps, too wary to ask. Hence they can also receive advice.
gunray, at present we have a UAS student doing her PPL at our flying club - she also wants to be a RAF pilot. She's away next week but will be back the week after - if you like I'll ask her to e-mail you with a contact number so that you can discuss the conflicting demands of degree work and flying with her directly.
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Well, my little banter about the moth seems to have touched some nerves here and for that I'm truly sorry because this thread has been messed up as can only happen in the Mil Forum. So I've deleted my brief second post that caused offence and hope that BEagle and Wholi will do the same with their replies.
It is reassuring that, although I've frequently dropped tidbits of info about my provenance, it remains obscure.
For Wholi, bless you young man. For BEagle, perhaps just a bad day; if you want to believe all that stuff about pre.. Oh shut up fobotcso, you'll start it all over again! Please, let's be friends.
It is reassuring that, although I've frequently dropped tidbits of info about my provenance, it remains obscure.
For Wholi, bless you young man. For BEagle, perhaps just a bad day; if you want to believe all that stuff about pre.. Oh shut up fobotcso, you'll start it all over again! Please, let's be friends.
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Reading these seemingly never ending threads I'm sure the poor Gunray will have given up any notion of a military flying career by now. Gunray; it looks to me like most of the respondents to your enquiry are RAF or ex RAF. Ignor the lot of them either join the RN or AAC. RN would be favourite. AAC great fun if you like the outdoor life. Hope this helps
fobotsco - perhaps when you've deleted all your offensive comments on this thread I may be inclined to make more substantial edits myself.
Good banter, Speccers! It must be hugely embarrassing to have your bedroom driven into the only rocks for thousands of miles. Much as it must have been for the Navy mate who successfully force-landed a Sea Fury near Yeovilton - and then hit the only tree in an otherwise empty field....
Good banter, Speccers! It must be hugely embarrassing to have your bedroom driven into the only rocks for thousands of miles. Much as it must have been for the Navy mate who successfully force-landed a Sea Fury near Yeovilton - and then hit the only tree in an otherwise empty field....
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fobotcso - I bow to your age as you must be at least 65 to call me "young man" 
However, I will say that I fail to see how offering Gunray the opportunity to talk to people actually experiencing what she is concerned about could be construed as "messing up" this thread. Or - perhaps - you were not referring to my offers when you said that??
PS - look back and you will see that I have acceded to your request to delete my thread!
However, I will say that I fail to see how offering Gunray the opportunity to talk to people actually experiencing what she is concerned about could be construed as "messing up" this thread. Or - perhaps - you were not referring to my offers when you said that??
PS - look back and you will see that I have acceded to your request to delete my thread!
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Specaircrew Beagle; please remember that those who live in glass houses etc etc. How did the RAF do in Bosnia ???? Gunray it's worthy of note that HMS Nottingham's embarked helicopter was not dampened by the mishap. Vulcans ..... now there must be a bit of dirt there somewhere..... How about the time when....oh I can't be arsed
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This will be my last reply for a while as I am going away for a few weeks....but I would just like to say that fortunately I do recognise the difference b't banter and harassment, and agree that PC statements have gone too far in this day and age (not to mention health and saftey). What happened to being able to live your own life without bureaucracy breathing down your throat. Or people sueing other people because they have been "exposed" to a bit of banter or misfortune. It takes the fun out of life if everyone is constantly covering their backs not sure how thinly the ice is spread. It seems that anyone who experiences a bit of discomfort or has an accident is able to claim thousands. Anyway getting back to the subject, I am have read this thread with great interest and appreciate all views, I would not want to be sheltered from the sexist remarks and am by no means preturbed by them. After all boyz will be boyz, and as long as I can banter back I don't see it as a problem.
Well gotta dash, thanks again for all the comments and I will investigate the UAS when I get to "Birzzle!"
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Well gotta dash, thanks again for all the comments and I will investigate the UAS when I get to "Birzzle!"
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Gunray, about the UAS, workload etc. We're in a similar position because I just graduated from Bristol, in a science (biochemistry) and was in the URNU (same as UAS, but Navy). I'm normally just a lurker on here though. Email me through the board if you think I can help.
At least with the URNU anyway, I would say the biggest problem for many people is the, er... aristocratic culture or class snobbery is as best as I can put it. If you stay in a wardroom, you'll see what I mean.
Oh yeah, and in Bristol Wills Hall has the best food, Goldney is the best self-catering, and The Hawthorns is a whole 50 metres from lectures in the morning!
(Fingers crossed please for my final ATCO interviews at Kemble Street bright and early tomorrow...)
At least with the URNU anyway, I would say the biggest problem for many people is the, er... aristocratic culture or class snobbery is as best as I can put it. If you stay in a wardroom, you'll see what I mean.
Oh yeah, and in Bristol Wills Hall has the best food, Goldney is the best self-catering, and The Hawthorns is a whole 50 metres from lectures in the morning!
(Fingers crossed please for my final ATCO interviews at Kemble Street bright and early tomorrow...)
