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Voyager capability/availability.

Old 22nd Feb 2020, 08:28
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Voyager capability/availability.

Given the well publicised rescue flights by a Spanish 744 on behalf of the U.K. government does the Voyager fleet have the capability to mount such short notice flights at time of National need? Regards Stampe.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 09:31
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depends if you want to have to quarantine the aircraft for a week or so after the flight I guess.............
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 10:19
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Originally Posted by Stampe View Post
Given the well publicised rescue flights by a Spanish 744 on behalf of the U.K. government does the Voyager fleet have the capability to mount such short notice flights at time of National need? Regards Stampe.
also depends whether that the Chinse authorities will allow a military aircraft in their airspace. AFAIK, that was a LIMFAC for both the Aussies and Kiwis.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 15:49
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also depends whether that the Chinse authorities will allow a military aircraft in their airspace. AFAIK, that was a LIMFAC for both the Aussies and Kiwis.
Didn't seem to bother them when it was the Red Arrows!
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 15:56
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There is also the small issue of Russian dip clr unless you want to go the long way!
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 17:55
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Thank you gentleman for the prompt replies.That all makes sense as to why military assets were not suitable for the task.What a complex world we live in ! Wamos certainly came out well they have gone from being an unknown operator in the UK to having had huge media exposure. Regards Stampe.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 19:30
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It's not the case that military assets were not suitable, just that civilian assets were entirely suitable for a completely civilian task. If, for whatever reason, civ air was not viable then and only then would you consider taking an expensive and scarce military asset and winging it across most of the planet. No doubt dipclr issues would have been raised but 'STATE' & 'HOSP' tend to break through the noise.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 21:26
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I think Voyager could be tasked on the civil register
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 02:56
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Not withstanding all the other comments the RAF or for that matter RAAF A330/KC-30 crewing and availability is the issue given the small numbers of aircraft available. The US military use lots of civil contractors to move military in and out of Australia eg. Qantas B747 has done our CV19 bidding and very well too.

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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 05:27
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Originally Posted by Top West 50 View Post
I think Voyager could be tasked on the civil register
at a significantly greater cost of a civil operator.... or equivalent sh1te value for money under PFI

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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 07:59
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TW50-The Voyagers are never on the civil register . Those ac are A330 demilitarized ac as part of the 3PR deal of the PFI. The cost of said ac when used in that scenario has F All l to do with the PFI hour rate-it is a commercial decision made by the organization if they bid for the task.
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