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USAF orders 80 new F-15X's

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Old 30th Jan 2020, 17:17
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USAF orders 80 new F-15X's

You just can't keep a good design down, capable of carrying 22 air to air missiles each.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...ying-new-f-15/
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So it's gone FBW.

That's a bit like fitting power steering onto a 205GTi ............easier steering but losing a bit of it's soul...
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An article at Bloomberg has revealed that the USAF will request eight F-15X fighters in its budget.
The service plans to buy 80 fighters over five years.
That's enough to fit out a wing of 72 aircraft, divided into three squadrons of 24 planes each, with eight spares.
That's just the five-year projection, though, and the service may buy additional fighters beyond 2025.
From Nutty's link.
Seems to be a good idea, in terms of "high-low mix" insofar as capability goes.
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Reminds me of a former OC 5 Sqn advocating the FC-130 over the North Sea dispensing AMRAAM in large quantities against the Soviet hordes.
I understand the concept, as an outsider.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
Reminds me of a former OC 5 Sqn advocating the FC-130 over the North Sea dispensing AMRAAM in large quantities against the Soviet hordes.
I understand the concept, as an outsider.
I always thought the Vulcan with a couple of rotary launchers. Could reach up in to the Norwegian Sea, zap any Bear or Badger, force Backfire to evade and go supersonic much earlier.
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F15 going into 2040 will be an epic achievement.

Makes a lot of sense to me when they have ~400 F15's who can still mix it up with most of the worlds airforces and can still deliver a hell of a bomb load plus a few a2a missiles to look after itself and still has decent legs. Hell of a machine for a modest new investment.

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Powered by G.E. F110-GE-129 series engines instead of the traditional F100-PW-229
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At 22s into the video on the news site (
), what am I looking at? Is it coincidence all those bits are moving in unison, or are they linked somehow?
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So, reading the article it would appear that the op headline is a tad misleading.

What it should say is that the USAF would like to order eight F-15X and has a future requirement for some 80 over 5 years. It hasn't actually ordered a single one yet.
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At 22s into the video on the news site, what am I looking at? Is it coincidence all those bits are moving in unison, or are they linked somehow?
They mounted the GoPro (or similar) to the inside of the canopy frame and you are seeing the canopy closing.
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I are a fule. I just saw the entire cockpit rising.
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Originally Posted by Bushfiva
I are a fule. I just saw the entire cockpit rising.
Neat optical trick. It could be a design feature for future evolutions to help the pilot and WSO get in and out of the the aircraft without kicking any of those uber- expensive flat panel displays.
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22 missiles? As Uncle Joe said, quantity has a quality of it's own......
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If Boeing has financial problems, one way is to order military equipment, whether needed or not....

It's okay I suppose.

(But a nice aircraft indeed)
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22 missiles? As Uncle Joe said, quantity has a quality of it's own......
But it kinda scuppers any idea of a quick OTR if "winchester"
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Originally Posted by jmmoric
If Boeing has financial problems, one way is to order military equipment, whether needed or not....

It's okay I suppose.

(But a nice aircraft indeed)
Hopefully, Boeing St Louis doesn’t suffer the maladies of Max and Pegasus fame.
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22 missiles! They're obviously expecting the opposition to come in VERY large numbers..................
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22 missiles! They're obviously expecting the opposition to come in VERY large numbers..................
...or to go out in very small numbers
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yea but you'd have to hang around for months for some airforces to get 22 targets heading your way.......................
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
yea but you'd have to hang around for months for some airforces to get 22 targets heading your way.......................
Unless willing to take insane risk, BVR combat against a peer adversary is about running them out of missiles before you do. Several may be expended before any kills are achieved...
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