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NutLoose 30th Jan 2020 17:17

USAF orders 80 new F-15X's
 
You just can't keep a good design down, capable of carrying 22 air to air missiles each.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...ying-new-f-15/

weemonkey 30th Jan 2020 17:26

So it's gone FBW.

That's a bit like fitting power steering onto a 205GTi ............easier steering but losing a bit of it's soul...

Lonewolf_50 30th Jan 2020 18:14


An article at Bloomberg has revealed that the USAF will request eight F-15X fighters in its budget.
The service plans to buy 80 fighters over five years.
That's enough to fit out a wing of 72 aircraft, divided into three squadrons of 24 planes each, with eight spares.
That's just the five-year projection, though, and the service may buy additional fighters beyond 2025.

From Nutty's link.
Seems to be a good idea, in terms of "high-low mix" insofar as capability goes.

MPN11 30th Jan 2020 18:51

Reminds me of a former OC 5 Sqn advocating the FC-130 over the North Sea dispensing AMRAAM in large quantities against the Soviet hordes.
I understand the concept, as an outsider.

Pontius Navigator 30th Jan 2020 20:48


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10675719)
Reminds me of a former OC 5 Sqn advocating the FC-130 over the North Sea dispensing AMRAAM in large quantities against the Soviet hordes.
I understand the concept, as an outsider.

I always thought the Vulcan with a couple of rotary launchers. Could reach up in to the Norwegian Sea, zap any Bear or Badger, force Backfire to evade and go supersonic much earlier.

Wee Weasley Welshman 30th Jan 2020 23:06

F15 going into 2040 will be an epic achievement.

Makes a lot of sense to me when they have ~400 F15's who can still mix it up with most of the worlds airforces and can still deliver a hell of a bomb load plus a few a2a missiles to look after itself and still has decent legs. Hell of a machine for a modest new investment.

WWW

Asia Trails 31st Jan 2020 02:30

Powered by G.E. F110-GE-129 series engines instead of the traditional F100-PW-229

Bushfiva 31st Jan 2020 05:39

At 22s into the video on the news site (
), what am I looking at? Is it coincidence all those bits are moving in unison, or are they linked somehow?

pr00ne 31st Jan 2020 06:26

So, reading the article it would appear that the op headline is a tad misleading.

What it should say is that the USAF would like to order eight F-15X and has a future requirement for some 80 over 5 years. It hasn't actually ordered a single one yet.

Jhieminga 31st Jan 2020 08:52


Originally Posted by Bushfiva (Post 10676000)
At 22s into the video on the news site, what am I looking at? Is it coincidence all those bits are moving in unison, or are they linked somehow?

They mounted the GoPro (or similar) to the inside of the canopy frame and you are seeing the canopy closing.

Bushfiva 31st Jan 2020 10:18

I are a fule. I just saw the entire cockpit rising.

dead_pan 31st Jan 2020 11:54


Originally Posted by Bushfiva (Post 10676164)
I are a fule. I just saw the entire cockpit rising.

Neat optical trick. It could be a design feature for future evolutions to help the pilot and WSO get in and out of the the aircraft without kicking any of those uber- expensive flat panel displays.

57mm 31st Jan 2020 11:59

22 missiles? As Uncle Joe said, quantity has a quality of it's own......

jmmoric 31st Jan 2020 12:45

If Boeing has financial problems, one way is to order military equipment, whether needed or not....

It's okay I suppose.

(But a nice aircraft indeed)

weemonkey 31st Jan 2020 17:00


Originally Posted by 57mm (Post 10676234)
22 missiles? As Uncle Joe said, quantity has a quality of it's own......

But it kinda scuppers any idea of a quick OTR if "winchester" :eek:

GlobalNav 31st Jan 2020 21:34


Originally Posted by jmmoric (Post 10676271)
If Boeing has financial problems, one way is to order military equipment, whether needed or not....

It's okay I suppose.

(But a nice aircraft indeed)

Hopefully, Boeing St Louis doesn’t suffer the maladies of Max and Pegasus fame.

Asturias56 1st Feb 2020 08:10

22 missiles! They're obviously expecting the opposition to come in VERY large numbers..................

dead_pan 1st Feb 2020 10:54


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10676895)
22 missiles! They're obviously expecting the opposition to come in VERY large numbers..................

...or to go out in very small numbers

Asturias56 1st Feb 2020 14:16

yea but you'd have to hang around for months for some airforces to get 22 targets heading your way.......................

Easy Street 1st Feb 2020 16:58


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10677127)
yea but you'd have to hang around for months for some airforces to get 22 targets heading your way.......................

Unless willing to take insane risk, BVR combat against a peer adversary is about running them out of missiles before you do. Several may be expended before any kills are achieved...


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