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Marshalls of Cambridge rules out move to Duxford

Old 27th Jan 2020, 21:27
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Originally Posted by Herod View Post
Weathersfield would make quite a bit of sense. It's still owned by the MOD, and I believe the runway is in pretty good shape. Not a lot of built -up area around, and transport links are pretty good. About an hour by road from Cambridge, and the M25 isn't that far away. Possibly too logical?
Like all the rest it will eventually be handed over lock, stock and barrel to the volume housing developers (or maybe a prison if the locals are REALLY luck). It's just a waiting game....

Wethersfield Housing plans


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Old 27th Jan 2020, 21:33
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Originally Posted by Kemble Pitts View Post
Looks ominous.

Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surpised if, at some point, we see a press release from Marshalls along the lines of "having sold our aerodrome for a shed full of money, we've explored all possible options for re-locating our aviation business to another suitable location. Unfortunately this has proved to be not possible so we're trousering the money and shutting the business. So, many thanks to all of our loyal employees, but they can go-swivel".

I really hope I'm wrong.
It's Cranfield or nowhere, that's been obvious from day 1. Both Wyton and Duxford were just put in as diversions to distract from the near certainty that Marshalls of Cambridge aviation business no longer has a home in Cambridgeshire. Like you I'm cynical as to the eventual outcome...
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 03:38
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Originally Posted by andrewn View Post
Like all the rest it will eventually be handed over lock, stock and barrel to the volume housing developers (or maybe a prison if the locals are REALLY luck). It's just a waiting game....

Wethersfield Housing plans
Well it seems like the MoD are hesitant, in two minds, if to selk Wethersfield or not so sharing it with a civilian operator might be the ideal solution for them
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Kemble Pitts View Post
Looks ominous.

Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surpised if, at some point, we see a press release from Marshalls along the lines of "having sold our aerodrome for a shed full of money, we've explored all possible options for re-locating our aviation business to another suitable location. Unfortunately this has proved to be not possible so we're trousering the money and shutting the business. So, many thanks to all of our loyal employees, but they can go-swivel".

I really hope I'm wrong.
Iím pretty sure you have hit the nail on the head here. The profitability of their aerospace division has not been stellar of late and an opportunity to grab a wad of cash will be difficult to resist.

Had they suggested such a plan to start with then the local job losses may have precluded the council granting planning permission for any use of the airfield.
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 09:05
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Had they suggested such a plan to start with then the local job losses may have precluded the council granting planning permission for any use of the airfield.
Let's be fair, Marshalls aren't the villian here. Cambridge Council has been trying to force them out for years so the airfield could be released for housing. All Marshalls have done, wisely, is play their hand to best advantage. They've waited until the desire for housing land is so great they can name their price, call the shots in terms of the planning permissions, set their own timeline to vacate, etc. It's an approach that is enabled by central government's crazy policy of insisting we build 300,000 houses per annun - whether we want them or not. It means local authorities have to find enough land for huge volumes of new homes, otherwise they get penalised and the houses still get built anyway!

Our insatiable appetitie for land to be developed is a national tragedy that is destroying our environment and our quality of life, but we are too short sighted to do anything about it unfortunately.
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 09:42
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"It's an approach that is enabled by central government's crazy policy of insisting we build 300,000 houses per annum - whether we want them or not"

I think you need to talk to people under the age of 35..... the UK is extremely short of new, affordable housing.................... especially around areas like Cambridge
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 10:59
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"It's an approach that is enabled by central government's crazy policy of insisting we build 300,000 houses per annum - whether we want them or not"

I think you need to talk to people under the age of 35..... the UK is extremely short of new, affordable housing.................... especially around areas like Cambridge
Too right. My stepson works just north of Cambridge and wants to move there but the cost of housing, even a flat, is beyond his means, even though he's a professional.
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 15:42
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"It's an approach that is enabled by central government's crazy policy of insisting we build 300,000 houses per annum - whether we want them or not"

I think you need to talk to people under the age of 35..... the UK is extremely short of new, affordable housing.................... especially around areas like Cambridge
I do wish that another term could be coined for so-called 'affordable housing' !Let's face it,if you've enough money,any house is affordable,and if you don't have enough money,no house is affordable ! Perhaps we could call it cheap housing (cheap being a relative term).
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 16:22
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Until the UK starts building public housing again in volume there will be no place for young people to buy in S England - Cambridge is bad, Oxford is similar. Places like the Thames Valley are £250-£ 300k for a tiny place in one of the "more interesting" neighborhoods.............
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"It's an approach that is enabled by central government's crazy policy of insisting we build 300,000 houses per annum - whether we want them or not"

I think you need to talk to people under the age of 35..... the UK is extremely short of new, affordable housing.................... especially around areas like Cambridge
Quite so however developers are very careful not to build so many houses that prices (and thus profits) might fall.

Only social housing would or could reduce the cost of houses and that's not going to be happening anytime soon.
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 00:38
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Originally Posted by just another jocky View Post
Too right. My stepson works just north of Cambridge and wants to move there but the cost of housing, even a flat, is beyond his means, even though he's a professional.
Prices drop rapidly as you go north from Cambridge, to the point that sensible JRs (the ones who donít spaff their money away on PCPs on high-end motors) can afford to live out from Marham. Lots of very affordable places in the Fens too. Yes, they may be less desirable, but if the goal is to stop paying rent and accumulate some capital then there is choice available.
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 01:07
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Hawarden ... nice big A380 wing hangar going to be empty there soon!!
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 08:38
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Seeing as everyone has pitched in with every other option, I'll make a bid for Old Warden...
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 08:44
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I see Old Warden and I raise you LHR - nothing happens there for about 8 hours every night - should be perfect.......................
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 09:01
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Given MB are having issues with their airfield at Chalgrove as well (although the speculation they 'took one for the team' might have ended that problem) you would think there would be merit in the various private aerospace firms that need an operational airfield for their business, to get together and take over one big one to all move into the one airfield? Harder for a council to take on multiple corporates than a single one?

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Old 29th Jan 2020, 09:08
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The new guessing game is "Marshalls of ?????".....
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 09:23
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"Harder for a council to take on multiple corporates than a single one?"

it's not always the Councils- the shareholders and the finance types at the companies all look at the bottom line and then at how much they can get RIGHT NOW if the sell for development - bit a of a no brainer TBH from a financial view. And the Councils are under pressure from voters and the Govt to find more land for housing.....................

It would be interesting to know what you could sell LHR for ..................
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Old 29th Jan 2020, 09:43
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Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
Given MB are having issues with their airfield at Chalgrove as well (although the speculation they 'took one for the team' might have ended that problem) you would think there would be merit in the various private aerospace firms that need an operational airfield for their business, to get together and take over one big one to all move into the one airfield? Harder for a council to take on multiple corporates than a single one?
On the face of it a good idea; but it ain't, sadly.

Many of the staff would not move to Somewhereville and there won't be any qualified people there to recruit afresh. Without the pink-podgy things you have no business.
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Art Smass View Post
Hawarden ... nice big A380 wing hangar going to be empty there soon!!
Empty hangers at Manchester Airport now- ex Thomas Cook and Air Livery. HS2 will be stopping too....
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Old 31st Jan 2020, 17:28
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What about Bourn Airfield, it's close to Cambridge. Rural location and it's in use as an airfield so less issues in some respects. Relatively good road links too.
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