Future of the Hawk...
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From: Uranus
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From: NORTHANTS
Hawk T1 XX292 now up for sale. It will probably end up in the USA where it could be flying within a year or so. The Reds will then be able to lease it as a spare during their next USA tour !!!
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From: Fareham
Many years ago I suggested making the main uc retract forwards into sponsons like the A-10, freeing up the inner wing volume for internal fuel and a couple of more pylons and the ability to carry more stores on the centre-line. The drag of faired-in sponsons is neglibile, as is that of slipper tanks should you go for them instead. The unguided store delivery performance of the 100 Series Hawks is pretty good and with its reliabily and legs it makes for a useful bush warfare aircraft as it stands.
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From: Welwyn Garden City
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp
The DM reckons Tempest will cruise along at 4,000mph!?
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The DM reckons Tempest will cruise along at 4,000mph!?
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What about Aeralis - www.aeralis.com - they even have a Red Arrows version.
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From: Hampshire
It's along time since I was a young aviation-minded schoolboy anxiously awaiting my first sight of an HS.1182. All good things come to an end but I feel at least a twinge of sadness that this month will see the end of UK production of the Hawk with the completion of the Qatari AF order. It appears from this story (https://www.business-live.co.uk/manu...ering-19415666) that BAE Systems have managed to minimize compulsory redundancies.
With it's early withdrawal from the USAF's T-X competition, lack of orders for the Advanced Hawk and statements that all future training will be synthetic looks like BAE Systems is determined to exit another sector. Reminds me of the post 9/11 shift to after market support only for the 146/RJ/RJX as BAES declared the market would never recover - Embraer and Bombadier have managed to sell 2000+ aircraft in the RJ sector since 2001, Does BAES just want to reduce its presence/risk exposure in airframe manufacture to the absolute minimum?
If training aircraft are dead in the not to distant future why has the USAF embarked on procuring the T-7A and the US issued an RFI for the UJTS T-45 replacement? The last OSD I saw for the T-45 was 2042! As the UJTS initial introduction is aimed at 2028 the T-45 OSD has probably changed. If it could get a US partner, surely BAES could develop a third generation Hawk to meet the USN's requirements with potential other sales? Especially given the current demand is for an aircraft that can perform high sink rate touch and goes rather than arrested landing and catapult takeoff. Or am I just naive?
From UJTS RFI App-A Capability REquirements Appendix - 04JUN2020
With it's early withdrawal from the USAF's T-X competition, lack of orders for the Advanced Hawk and statements that all future training will be synthetic looks like BAE Systems is determined to exit another sector. Reminds me of the post 9/11 shift to after market support only for the 146/RJ/RJX as BAES declared the market would never recover - Embraer and Bombadier have managed to sell 2000+ aircraft in the RJ sector since 2001, Does BAES just want to reduce its presence/risk exposure in airframe manufacture to the absolute minimum?
If training aircraft are dead in the not to distant future why has the USAF embarked on procuring the T-7A and the US issued an RFI for the UJTS T-45 replacement? The last OSD I saw for the T-45 was 2042! As the UJTS initial introduction is aimed at 2028 the T-45 OSD has probably changed. If it could get a US partner, surely BAES could develop a third generation Hawk to meet the USN's requirements with potential other sales? Especially given the current demand is for an aircraft that can perform high sink rate touch and goes rather than arrested landing and catapult takeoff. Or am I just naive?
From UJTS RFI App-A Capability REquirements Appendix - 04JUN2020
