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LHR flights diverted at request of RAF

Old 17th Jan 2020, 22:07
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Why all this talk of 'assets'? Why not aircraft? One does not take a Transport for London 'asset' to move around the Central Line. More Americanspeak or Managementbabble.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 22:38
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Flight GAF612 Northolt to Hamburg, departed 8.55am and looks to have cut straight across the London CTR en route. A German Air Force Bombardier BD-700 Global 5000, one of their VIP Executive Transport Wing Aircraft. It likely dropped someone off in Hamburg and then went back to it’s base in Cologne 39 minutes after touchdown.

Angela dropping off the keys for the new owners ?

Edit - I suppose the RAF did say one of “our” assets....

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Old 18th Jan 2020, 09:21
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Possibly returning Ms Ursula von der Leyen after her talks with Boris on BREXIT? She represents a constituency near Hanover and was Minister of Defence until last year?
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 10:55
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Ecky thump, thread-drift or what!
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 11:17
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Isn’t it about time that a certain POTUS was mentioned in this thread? After all, some of his assets were at Northolt last month, so I am surprised that a tenuous link has not yet been suggested
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 11:49
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Musta been something important for Northolt to be open at 9 am Devil
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 13:43
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
Musta been something important for Northolt to be open at 9 am Devil
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
Northolt opens at 8am. And, the spylanders are able to fly well before that and well into the evening and night.

FR24 isn't the only thing you can look at ... there are others.
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Geezers of Nazareth View Post
Northolt opens at 8am. And, the spylanders are able to fly well before that and well into the evening and night.

FR24 isn't the only thing you can look at ... there are others.
plus you can switch off ADSB all you want. You can still MLAT triangulate off of mode C/S as other websites do with an unredacted feed.
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 14:38
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I assume that most routine Northolt traffic (VIP or otherwise) either fits seamlessly into the Heathrow pattern or goes round it. Only conjecture, but much more likely that a “secret asset” developed an in flight emergency and the RAF responded to a Mayday. I imagine that had a civilian “asset” required an emergency priority approach to Heathrow, similar delays to other civilian traffic would have occurred, but we would all understand why and the topic would have gone away by now. This is a common fault of the security services – to let everyone know that there is a secret which you are not sharing. Nothing arouses public curiosity more.
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 18:51
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MLAT

Originally Posted by VinRouge View Post
plus you can switch off ADSB all you want. You can still MLAT triangulate off of mode C/S as other websites do with an unredacted feed.
That's not true, sadly.

Because all Mode C transmissions look/sound the same, it is not possible to MLAT using them.

Mode S carries (what ought to be) an airframe specific code, which differentiates between Mode S transponders, and is tied to a Registration/Callsign as well as showing a mission specific callsign if entered.

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Old 18th Jan 2020, 22:29
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One of the RAF'S BAe 146's, ZE707 flew into LBA earlier this morning routing direct from RAF Northolt, Did this cause a problem on departure?
No, nor on arrival.
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 11:53
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Was there a RAF Waddington asset flying around the area? 54 or 5 sqns?
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 12:27
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Originally Posted by LBIA View Post
One of the RAF'S BAe 146's, ZE707 flew into LBA earlier this morning routing direct from RAF Northolt, Did this cause a problem on departure?
Let’s just have a think about this...could we really imagine a RAF BAe146 spearing off into the LHR approach lane on departure by accident causing LHR inbounds to have to remain in the hold and multiple flights to be diverted?!

Was there a RAF Waddington asset flying around the area? 54 or 5 sqns?


54 Sqn is an ISR OCU so the students have got it really wrong if they are using the LHR approach lane for training. Similarly a Sentinel choosing to do some pattern of life ground mapping at 4000ft around Hounslow seems a bit far fetched. Also, I’m not sure they work on Fridays.

Pure speculation, but I reckon the reason would have Cat B status and wouldn’t want to float around the LHR approaches unless really necessary as I can’t imagine they want the publicity.

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Old 19th Jan 2020, 17:47
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Originally Posted by dmcg View Post
Don’t believe Google. That information is out of date.
Or someone needs to use different Google terms.
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Old 20th Jan 2020, 01:51
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Originally Posted by kkbuk View Post
Why all this talk of 'assets'? Why not aircraft? One does not take a Transport for London 'asset' to move around the Central Line. More Americanspeak or Managementbabble.
Could't agree more. An asset is anything of value or a resource of value that can be converted into cash. Individuals, companies, and governments own assets.
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Old 20th Jan 2020, 20:28
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https://www.flightradar24.com/2020-0.../E55P/238d51f1
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 07:42
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Originally Posted by steamchicken View Post

can you tell us what we should be looking at on the FR replay please?
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 08:13
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can you tell us what we should be looking at on the FR replay please?
Possibly that the BNN, LAM, OCK and BIG holds all get busy?
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 15:07
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An a/c that routes from Farnborough to Northolt between 0909 and 0945, squawk E55P. It departs to the SW from Farnborough, does a 180 degree turn, passes to the W of LHR, turns NE towards Northolt, one orbit near Hayes, eventually routes to the north past Uxbridge and arrives into Northolt from the NE, landing to the SW.
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 18:53
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Thankyou! I suppose it was faster than driving up the M25 at that time of the day..............
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