LHR flights diverted at request of RAF
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Flight GAF612 Northolt to Hamburg, departed 8.55am and looks to have cut straight across the London CTR en route. A German Air Force Bombardier BD-700 Global 5000, one of their VIP Executive Transport Wing Aircraft. It likely dropped someone off in Hamburg and then went back to it’s base in Cologne 39 minutes after touchdown.
Angela dropping off the keys for the new owners ?
Edit - I suppose the RAF did say one of “our” assets....
Angela dropping off the keys for the new owners ?
Edit - I suppose the RAF did say one of “our” assets....
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Musta been something important for Northolt to be open at 9 am Devil
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Musta been something important for Northolt to be open at 9 am Devil
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
I would guess the 'sneaky beakies' don't broadcast an ADS-B signal for security reasons; be too easy whoever they're looking for to track them on FR24 if they did.
FR24 isn't the only thing you can look at ... there are others.
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Originally Posted by Geezers of Nazareth
Northolt opens at 8am. And, the spylanders are able to fly well before that and well into the evening and night.
FR24 isn't the only thing you can look at ... there are others.
FR24 isn't the only thing you can look at ... there are others.
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I assume that most routine Northolt traffic (VIP or otherwise) either fits seamlessly into the Heathrow pattern or goes round it. Only conjecture, but much more likely that a “secret asset” developed an in flight emergency and the RAF responded to a Mayday. I imagine that had a civilian “asset” required an emergency priority approach to Heathrow, similar delays to other civilian traffic would have occurred, but we would all understand why and the topic would have gone away by now. This is a common fault of the security services – to let everyone know that there is a secret which you are not sharing. Nothing arouses public curiosity more.
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MLAT
Originally Posted by VinRouge
plus you can switch off ADSB all you want. You can still MLAT triangulate off of mode C/S as other websites do with an unredacted feed.
Because all Mode C transmissions look/sound the same, it is not possible to MLAT using them.
Mode S carries (what ought to be) an airframe specific code, which differentiates between Mode S transponders, and is tied to a Registration/Callsign as well as showing a mission specific callsign if entered.
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Originally Posted by LBIA
One of the RAF'S BAe 146's, ZE707 flew into LBA earlier this morning routing direct from RAF Northolt, Did this cause a problem on departure?
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Originally Posted by LBIA
One of the RAF'S BAe 146's, ZE707 flew into LBA earlier this morning routing direct from RAF Northolt, Did this cause a problem on departure?
Was there a RAF Waddington asset flying around the area? 54 or 5 sqns?
54 Sqn is an ISR OCU so the students have got it really wrong if they are using the LHR approach lane for training. Similarly a Sentinel choosing to do some pattern of life ground mapping at 4000ft around Hounslow seems a bit far fetched. Also, I’m not sure they work on Fridays.
Pure speculation, but I reckon the reason would have Cat B status and wouldn’t want to float around the LHR approaches unless really necessary as I can’t imagine they want the publicity.
Last edited by CharlieMike; 19th Jan 2020 at 11:51.
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Originally Posted by kkbuk
Why all this talk of 'assets'? Why not aircraft? One does not take a Transport for London 'asset' to move around the Central Line. More Americanspeak or Managementbabble.
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Originally Posted by steamchicken
can you tell us what we should be looking at on the FR replay please?
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An a/c that routes from Farnborough to Northolt between 0909 and 0945, squawk E55P. It departs to the SW from Farnborough, does a 180 degree turn, passes to the W of LHR, turns NE towards Northolt, one orbit near Hayes, eventually routes to the north past Uxbridge and arrives into Northolt from the NE, landing to the SW.
