Battle damage repair?
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Battle damage repair?
This might seem a peculiar request but are there any BDR experts in the room? I have recently found some HE damage to an airframe that I am keen to identify (the cause, not the airframe!).
Any help gratefully received,
mog
Any help gratefully received,
mog
The effect of a 9mm round on a Carbon-fibre rotor blade was surprising, mainly because the entry and exit points were very hard to see. Other simulations looked at smallish HE shells and small arms vs conventional alloy airframes and similar. I would think the RAE results should be available, but no idea where you might start.
Have you any pics? Happy to opine if my rusty old brain will oblige after all these years.
Regards
N
No help sorry, but please keep us posted Mogwi! Interesting stuff.
The expanding rod warhead on the AIM-9 and other types sure does create some interesting damage.
The expanding rod warhead on the AIM-9 and other types sure does create some interesting damage.
BDR? The courses were none existent when I was trying to get folks on. Is it still around at St Athan or is it just another line in a dusty risk register with the owner hoping the subject doesn't arise on their watch?
I believe that the RAF Tornado had a BDRM and this was produced prior to GW1.
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Being "certified" as a bdr assessor wasn't the cushy number that most thought.
I distinctly remember being fully booted and suited ( and the rest) for a taceval inject, a wing wiring repair, front spar, Tornado. Oh the joy of 18 hrs "incognito" in a S6 doing the rather large and busy repair with attentive DS on your shoulder...
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I ran the RN BDR desk from Apr 1982 to Jan 84. There was quite a bit of work being done then by PE and RAE to look at various opposition and UK munitions to see what sort of damage they might produce to various obsolete fixed and rotary airframes. Then a bunch of South Americans gave us some more examples for free.😊
The effect of a 9mm round on a Carbon-fibre rotor blade was surprising, mainly because the entry and exit points were very hard to see. Other simulations looked at smallish HE shells and small arms vs conventional alloy airframes and similar. I would think the RAE results should be available, but no idea where you might start.
Have you any pics? Happy to opine if my rusty old brain will oblige after all these years.
Regards
N
The effect of a 9mm round on a Carbon-fibre rotor blade was surprising, mainly because the entry and exit points were very hard to see. Other simulations looked at smallish HE shells and small arms vs conventional alloy airframes and similar. I would think the RAE results should be available, but no idea where you might start.
Have you any pics? Happy to opine if my rusty old brain will oblige after all these years.
Regards
N
Mog
The common RPG does a real number on helicopters.....I have photo of what looks like a PBY Waist Blister Opening with four guys standing in the hole gazing at the sky after one of our Chinooks took a hit from below that exited midway up the side of the fuselage.
Mogwi, I wonder if Westland (or whatever they're called now) might help you. Any Design Authority is always keen to understand the effect of damage and effectiveness of BDR. I recall them being very impressed with one particular Sea King from 1982. It was left as it was many years later during an upgrade, but the changes had to be recorded in the drawings as a modification set in the nose avionics bay had to be a special order.
