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Alright, that got your attention...
I am an adult student on an Access course, and this course will be used as a foot in the door for a commissioned RAF career.
One of the subjects is British History, and for the Unit 2 assignment, I have been set a research project where I can negotiate a subject title from the late 19th century until fairly recent.
The title I have negotiated is, 'To what extent did Britain's involvement in the Iraq War have a negative impact on the War on Terror?'
This is a topic that interests me and motivates me so it was a no-brainer.
I have already spoken to a couple friends of mine who are both military historians and did quite a lot of flying in Iraq as Chinook/Hercules pilots, however it is likely that there's always something that we may have missed and I know lots of you served on TELIC, HERRICK, ELLAMY, SHADER, etc. and you may be aware of other publications (open source) from either the MOD, Staff college essays or even other books/articles that have been missed. I'd be grateful for any assistance please!
The key points I wish to argue are:
The sources I already have noted down, are:
Thank you and I will keep you all fully updated - I kind of want to try to dedicate this piece to all British servicemen and women who served on Operation TELIC; much respect for you all.
I am an adult student on an Access course, and this course will be used as a foot in the door for a commissioned RAF career.
One of the subjects is British History, and for the Unit 2 assignment, I have been set a research project where I can negotiate a subject title from the late 19th century until fairly recent.
The title I have negotiated is, 'To what extent did Britain's involvement in the Iraq War have a negative impact on the War on Terror?'
This is a topic that interests me and motivates me so it was a no-brainer.
I have already spoken to a couple friends of mine who are both military historians and did quite a lot of flying in Iraq as Chinook/Hercules pilots, however it is likely that there's always something that we may have missed and I know lots of you served on TELIC, HERRICK, ELLAMY, SHADER, etc. and you may be aware of other publications (open source) from either the MOD, Staff college essays or even other books/articles that have been missed. I'd be grateful for any assistance please!
The key points I wish to argue are:
- The impact on public opinion of armed conflict - the use of media and the way media has been exploited, and the legalities of armed conflict.. Abu Ghraib soured the public by vexatious and false claims made by lawyers, accusations of war crimes and length of time to rebut allegations.
- The pivot was on Iraq and left Afghanistan unfinished; it over-stretched HM Forces and caused two lengthy wars. The UK had good reason to be involved in Afghanistan after 9/11, Afghanistan were given the chance to hand over AQ but refused and they remember centuries old history like it was yesterday, making it very difficult to win their hearts and minds.
- The British government failed to tackle Islamic radicalisation of its youth, many young people were radicalised in prison because radical preachers preyed on the so-called "underclass," the likely bogus claims about the Iraq War allowed AQ to brainwash misguided young Muslims in to believing that their own Government hated them and terrorism was the only way to gain respect and live a prestigious life.
- And finally (if there's space), I will attempt to argue that the British public have less contact with the military, less trust in their use for what they see as "legitimate" purposes, which directly aids terrorism as they cease to support adequate funding due to being less "militaristic" and aware of the current threat, due to a reduction in national pride and patriotism after the chaos they see to have been caused in Iraq.
The sources I already have noted down, are:
- Unwinnable (book)
- Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone (book)
- Predator - Richard Whittle (book) - this apparently goes in to some small detail about how terrorists operate.
Thank you and I will keep you all fully updated - I kind of want to try to dedicate this piece to all British servicemen and women who served on Operation TELIC; much respect for you all.
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Lordy lord. There's enough there for a doctorate never mind an Access course.
My initial thought are that, by having to be selective with you chain of thoughts, you're going to struggle presenting a balanced argument. There's a huge (international) political piece that needs to provide context.
Good luck.
My initial thought are that, by having to be selective with you chain of thoughts, you're going to struggle presenting a balanced argument. There's a huge (international) political piece that needs to provide context.
Good luck.
That right there
Is a sore spot for people on both sides of the pond. Are you going to try and scale the size of this project down, scope wise? There are book length treatments of this that span various time periods.
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End of Iraq were two that were written while it was in progress and both aren't bad.
There's been other stuff since.
The pivot was on Iraq and left Afghanistan unfinished
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End of Iraq were two that were written while it was in progress and both aren't bad.
There's been other stuff since.
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I have about 1,500-2000 words to play with after a 1,000 word plan. It's not much.
I appreciate the book references, thank you. Does anybody know of any Defence publications from the UK that are open source?
I appreciate the book references, thank you. Does anybody know of any Defence publications from the UK that are open source?
I know this may be looking rather too far into the past for your purposes, but I recommend highly these two books which may help to give you a historical perspective on what is happening now.
'A Line in the Sand' by James Barr which describes how Britain and France agreed to divide up the Middle East after WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire:-
https://www.sce.cornell.edu/sce/alts...120212_455.pdf
'Queen of the Desert' by Georgina Howell. This is a biography of Gertrude Bell who was an advisor to the British government when setting up the new state of Iraq.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/b...w/Worth.t.html
Western ignorance of this area of the world then and now has much to answer for as a cause of our present troubles.
'A Line in the Sand' by James Barr which describes how Britain and France agreed to divide up the Middle East after WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire:-
https://www.sce.cornell.edu/sce/alts...120212_455.pdf
'Queen of the Desert' by Georgina Howell. This is a biography of Gertrude Bell who was an advisor to the British government when setting up the new state of Iraq.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/b...w/Worth.t.html
Western ignorance of this area of the world then and now has much to answer for as a cause of our present troubles.
The Iraq Inquiry (‘Chilcot’) evidence is all online and an unrivalled primary source for the subject. The handwritten notes in the margins of cabinet papers are particularly interesting.
I’d also advise a trawl of Parliamentary select committee websites; Defence and Foreign Affairs mainly, but also Home Affairs. There are several past reports that you can read and the written and oral evidence is all archived and cross-referenced. A very interesting source indeed.
However my best piece of advice is similar to the others that have already replied: reconsider your scope, which is far too broad for a 15,000 word dissertation, let alone a 2,000 word essay. You will most likely end up losing marks for giving a superficial treatment to your question. Remember that the marker will be looking for evidence that you have: a) advanced an idea; b) considered a range of sources; c) weighed the evidence and argued your case; d) drawn appropriate conclusions. You should have an essay-writing guide from your provider so follow that and don’t try to pack too much in.
I’d also advise a trawl of Parliamentary select committee websites; Defence and Foreign Affairs mainly, but also Home Affairs. There are several past reports that you can read and the written and oral evidence is all archived and cross-referenced. A very interesting source indeed.
However my best piece of advice is similar to the others that have already replied: reconsider your scope, which is far too broad for a 15,000 word dissertation, let alone a 2,000 word essay. You will most likely end up losing marks for giving a superficial treatment to your question. Remember that the marker will be looking for evidence that you have: a) advanced an idea; b) considered a range of sources; c) weighed the evidence and argued your case; d) drawn appropriate conclusions. You should have an essay-writing guide from your provider so follow that and don’t try to pack too much in.
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Point 4 would be suitable for an essay. You could touch on Iraq and AFG which are both
positive recruitment benefits and public alienation.
positive recruitment benefits and public alienation.
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On your Point 4, I would argue that the public are more aware of the military than they were 10-15 years ago. They also seem to now sensibly disconnect the individual serviceman (oops -serviceperson) from the policies they are supporting. This is very different from the case with NI operations.
Reasons:
- Greater use of reservists who return to the "real world" (sic) after deployment.
- Better immediate trauma care for wounded individuals, leading to more surviving "disabled" veterans in the public eye.
- As a subset of the above, Special Olympics (or whatever they are called now) and - particularly - Prince Harry and the Invictus Games.
Evidence:
- Amongst other things, greater availability of military discounts (even for "veterans"); two I've experienced recently was a chain restaurant which sounds like it is run by the present and previous Popes; and a card shop which isn't run by an ex-POTUS. Both give 20% which is not to be sneezed at - just don't tell Milady T I got her Valentine card at a disount!
Reasons:
- Greater use of reservists who return to the "real world" (sic) after deployment.
- Better immediate trauma care for wounded individuals, leading to more surviving "disabled" veterans in the public eye.
- As a subset of the above, Special Olympics (or whatever they are called now) and - particularly - Prince Harry and the Invictus Games.
Evidence:
- Amongst other things, greater availability of military discounts (even for "veterans"); two I've experienced recently was a chain restaurant which sounds like it is run by the present and previous Popes; and a card shop which isn't run by an ex-POTUS. Both give 20% which is not to be sneezed at - just don't tell Milady T I got her Valentine card at a disount!
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I appreciate the feedback so far - I think I'm going to send this link to my tutor, see what he thinks. Thanks guys.
I am really passionate about this, and I want to get it right - not just for the marks, but because I have a moral obligation to get it right by providing an honest argument. Our Forces mean a lot to me and they are owed that.
I am really passionate about this, and I want to get it right - not just for the marks, but because I have a moral obligation to get it right by providing an honest argument. Our Forces mean a lot to me and they are owed that.
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Beardy,
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
Beardy,
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
Beardy,
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
I'm sure you can appreciate that I'd rather not play the semantics game. The 'War on Terror' was coined by President George W. Bush in 2001, reaffirmed by Prime Minister Tony Blair and other leaders across the world.
I think it is universally understood what it is meant by 'War on Terror.'
B.
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As someone who has a medal/campaign ribbon for GWOT (Global War on Terror) I can assure you that even when I was involved in it I was not quite sure WTF they were on about.
It's like the "war on poverty" horse**** in the US. The war on drugs.
People are appropriating a term for their pet peeve and what they are crusading against.
PS: if you look from the other side, the Westerners are often referred to as Crusaders, in a pejorative sense.
Iif you value your credibility, I'd not use War On Terror in your formal work. It is a loaded term devoid of value.
I prefer the term that got a few people into some trouble: The War Against Terror. (On a coffee cup, it was just the initials, so it was spelled T.W.A.T.) The higher brass were not amused.
It's like the "war on poverty" horse**** in the US. The war on drugs.
People are appropriating a term for their pet peeve and what they are crusading against.
PS: if you look from the other side, the Westerners are often referred to as Crusaders, in a pejorative sense.
Iif you value your credibility, I'd not use War On Terror in your formal work. It is a loaded term devoid of value.
I prefer the term that got a few people into some trouble: The War Against Terror. (On a coffee cup, it was just the initials, so it was spelled T.W.A.T.) The higher brass were not amused.
The key points I wish to argue are:
- The impact on public opinion of armed conflict - the use of media and the way media has been exploited, and the legalities of armed conflict.. Abu Ghraib soured the public by vexatious and false claims made by lawyers, accusations of war crimes and length of time to rebut allegations. CNN was a huge asset during the first Iraq conflict in 1990/91, where 24 hour news had just come of age. By 2002/3 it was achieving the opposite effect - the public could tune in, realtime, and check what was happening in George Bush's big brother house. Great if things are going well, you're declaring a quick victory and moving on, but not so great if its not quite going as planned. The war was unpopular from the start; people couldn't quite connect the dots to 9/11 in the way they could with Afghanistan, and the dodgy dossier and Dr Kelly affair hit the press, it gathered a negative momentum. The bizarre dismantling of the state apparatus resulted in chaos, which also kept the media fire stoked.
- The British government failed to tackle Islamic radicalisation of its youth, many young people were radicalised in prison because radical preachers preyed on the so-called "underclass," the likely bogus claims about the Iraq War allowed AQ to brainwash misguided young Muslims in to believing that their own Government hated them and terrorism was the only way to gain respect and live a prestigious life. Yes and no..... you are right that this period saw an uptick in home grown terrorism, but I don't believe the cause was just Iraq... a big aspect, yes, but bear in mind Afghanistan and lots of other operations were being conducted around the world. I'd lean towards Iraq being the major aspect of radicalisation, but not the only aspect.
A major failure was to not define and maintain an objective. There was no stated goal that could be said to have been achieved. Hence 'mission creep' was absolutely inevitable as everyone with a finger in the pie had their say.
That is the reason why the phrase 'War on Terror' is useless.
That is the reason why the phrase 'War on Terror' is useless.
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Minigundiplomat, if there was a 'like' button on here, I'd have used it. Thank you - that's given me some ideas to research.
By the way, I figure you're Chinook rear-crew; thanks for rattling my windows every so often, I love having that absolute beast flying around - I'm 40 miles from Odiham.
By the way, I figure you're Chinook rear-crew; thanks for rattling my windows every so often, I love having that absolute beast flying around - I'm 40 miles from Odiham.
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