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Old 10th Dec 2018, 10:57
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Originally Posted by The...Bird View Post
Very low demand(For all 3 types for that matter) The number of pilots being selected for each IOT has been reduced to 5.
One suspects that the reduction in pilot spaces is a consequence of the utter garbage that is MFTS. What does that have to do with crewman?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 18:05
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Originally Posted by WingsofRoffa View Post


One suspects that the reduction in pilot spaces is a consequence of the utter garbage that is MFTS. What does that have to do with crewman?
Looking at the near future, I'd say ISTAR is the growth field, making it likely that the majority of WSOp trainees will stream that way rather than rotary. Both will get trained by MFTS - it's not just for Pilots.
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 10:07
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Originally Posted by camelspyyder View Post
By the way living in either Mess is awful. On base accommodation upgrades have correctly prioritised the Junior ranks, so many Messes date from the 1930's to the 1960's and are horrid.
Except at Lossiemouth, who will be getting a huge influx in WSO, WSOp and JRs.
The OM and WO & Sgt's Mess are both modern buildings with large, airy function rooms, bar, en-suite rooms, and even studio flats for the officers.
Meanwhile the JRs are still in buildings from the late 60s with shared ablutions, no modern amenities, no real cooking facilities (they are allowed a microwave and George Foreman in the kitchens) and the 'NAAFI' bar had the bowling alley turned into a function room that gets more use as a station briefing facility for VIPs and meetings than as the JRs space it was intended to be. (Although they have moved a bar in there for the juniors as their actual bar flooded and there is no fix in sight)
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Old 15th Dec 2018, 16:06
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Originally Posted by Lomon View Post
Except at Lossiemouth, who will be getting a huge influx in WSO, WSOp and JRs.
The OM and WO & Sgt's Mess are both modern buildings with large, airy function rooms, bar, en-suite rooms, and even studio flats for the officers.
Meanwhile the JRs are still in buildings from the late 60s with shared ablutions, no modern amenities, no real cooking facilities (they are allowed a microwave and George Foreman in the kitchens) and the 'NAAFI' bar had the bowling alley turned into a function room that gets more use as a station briefing facility for VIPs and meetings than as the JRs space it was intended to be. (Although they have moved a bar in there for the juniors as their actual bar flooded and there is no fix in sight)
To be fair, Lossie had to change. The slum we inherited off the RN was awful. I seem to remember 8 (or 16?) man rooms in the Jr's block adjoining the NAAFI in the 80's, and the Sgt's mess cabins were about only about 6 feet by 4. The first improvement there was to knock each pair of rooms in to a single but it was only an interim solution.

Regardless of the buildings being new or old, it was the actual living (or just existing) in the Mess that I detested, and for many of the people who get posted in there, the fact that it's in the SNP Republic of Moray will just make it worse.
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 07:11
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.... the fact that it's in the SNP Republic of Moray will just make it worse.
What?

https://www.parliament.uk/biographie...glas-ross/4627
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 13:45
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His election was a blip. That has got to be one of the oldest and longest held SNP seats in the country.
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 15:10
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It depends how far back you want to go. The area was solid Conservative until Winnie Ewing won it for the SNP in the early 80s. Anyway, at least the current incumbent helped sort out the income tax differential -which, by the way, just got worse!
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 18:52
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Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
It depends how far back you want to go. The area was solid Conservative until Winnie Ewing won it for the SNP in the early 80s. Anyway, at least the current incumbent helped sort out the income tax differential -which, by the way, just got worse!
Member of Parliament (Hamilton 196770; Moray and Nairn 7479), Member of the European Parliament (Highlands and Islands 19751999) and Member of the Scottish Parliament (Highlands and Islands 19992003)

As the resident MP she+1 was invited to the annual reception at Kinloss. She brought a retinue along. There was also a letter offering transfer terms for RAF personnel to the SRAF.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 14:33
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I know these matters exercise our minds greatly (perhaps way more than they should) but I've lived and worked on various RAF bases under conservatives, liberals, labour, SNP and even the Welsh lot, and I can't say I ever noticed a blind bit of difference.

There are lots of reasons to love (or hate) Kinloss/Lossiemouth; the incumbent MP is probably not very high on most folks list, either way.

Sorry for the thread drift; I'll get my coat.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 21:36
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TOFO,

I think Winnie Ewing was different; people knew who she was. How many other knew the name of their MP?
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