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Old 18th Sep 2018, 03:16
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Dedication to one's profession

Like all great flying stories, this one starts with, "Once upon a time..."
Once upon a time there was this infamous Navy fighter pilot named Joe "Hoser" Satrapa (USNA’64). Joe got his call sign the first time he was on a gunnery range near El Centro, California. On his first three firing passes, he missed the target. This upset him to the bone, so he resolved to make his fourth pass count. Flying as number four in a flight of four, he cut off number three during the last gunnery circuit, then "hosed" all his remaining ammunition at the target . . . missing it again! After being chewed out by his mission leader for his lack of in flight discipline, Satrapa was awarded the call sign "Hoser."He became an excellent pilot, completed 162 combat missions over Vietnam, made more than 500 carrier landings, and was known throughout the Navy for his dogfighting prowess. But Hoser was almost as well known for his don't-give-a-crap-about- paperwork attitude and the lack of deference he showed non-aviators, especially those of higher rank. Because of his “administrative deficiencies", he was forced out of the Navy as an 0-4 in the early 1980's. When John Lehman (a former Navy A-6 backseater) became Secretary of the Navy a couple of years later, he arranged for a presidential order by Ronald Reagan to return Hoser to service with a promotion to 0-5. Lehman himself handed over the Silver Leafs on the day Hoser was welcomed back into the Navy. Hoser was assigned to the Navy’s Fighter Weapons School, Topgun, and was put in charge of the F-14 gun program where he continued to do what he did best . . . fly and fight and train Naval aviators to do the same. Hoser's Air to Air Guns brief, done as Patton's Flag Speech, was a highlight.Sometime in 1986, Hoser "procured" a 20MM barrel from an F-14 gun. He attached it to a breach and fashioned himself a rather formidable weapon. One day while Hoser was playing around with his new invention, the breach blew up taking off Hoser’s right index finger and thumb. Note well that a right thumb is essential for flying a jet fighter because the electric trim tab is located on the top of the control stick where the pilot’s thumb rests while holding the stick. Thus a pilot without a right thumb is unable to fly a jet fighter.But the lack of a right thumb would not stop Hoser. He convinced the surgeon to take off his right big toe and attach it to his right hand . . . now he had three fingers and a big toe. It looked a bit like a lobster claw but Hoser demonstrated that he could operate the trim button, so he went back on flight status . . . with a new call sign, "Toeser".

You can see the thumb here

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I’ve got Joe’s collection of stories and would love to get it autographed...does anyone have contact details for Joe?
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Reading the above he seems to be very much in the mould of Douglas Bader.
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Harley Quinn,

You obviously never met Douglas Bader...
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Agreed Pr00ne
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Harley Quinn,

You obviously never met Douglas Bader...
No I never did, but I don't think my view of DB is very far from yours or Nutloose hence the comment
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Colin Hodgkinson always seems to be overshadowed by Bader's reputation. Then there was the one-armed James MacLachlan...
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obi...Alex-Ross.html
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
Harley Quinn,

You obviously never met Douglas Bader...
What are you implying?
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Pontius,

I think it is being suggested, in the nicest possible way of course and as befits the always well reasoned and sober comments on this forum, that Douglas Bader could be a little difficult at times!

The well recorded treatment of a soldier who looked after him in Colditz and whom Bader would not allow to be repatriated, plus his reaction to said soldier when Bader's 'spare' legs would not be transported home, shows the other side of this distinguished officer.

Nuff said

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O-D, J-S would appear to have been a little trying with his seniors too. Both still got promoted despite being 'difficult'.
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