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Drunk matelots arrested

Old 9th Sep 2018, 16:53
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Drunk matelots arrested

RN traditions alive and well: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45463703
Given the context of QEII/F35/US/UK relations etc, I suspect the guilty parties will feel the full force of the lash.

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Old 9th Sep 2018, 17:00
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I think they’ve already felt the full force of the lash.... that’s what got them into trouble in the first place!!!!
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 18:03
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Was this after the rum and sodomy ? [W S Chuchill]
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 18:23
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I was disappointed to hear reports that it was only half a dozen disorderly matelots. Has the RN lost Nelson's fighting spirit?
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 18:32
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How long had they been on cruise? 7 days????
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 19:46
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2 weeks.

To be fair I was rat-arsed last time I went to Jax too.

"Navy get drunk on run ashore" probably wasn't news in Ancient Greece and it still isn't.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 20:15
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How right you are!
I am ex-light blue but did an RN exchange tour late 50's and taught RN pilots in late 60's. This is not news, I am only suprised at the low numbers!!
PC news??

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Old 9th Sep 2018, 22:35
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I think the main question is more about where on earth their mates were to stop them getting arrested?!

1st tour of the QE.... I can't see this going very well for the lads involved... book...thrown...etc.
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Getting drunk and a bit rowdy is one thing, fighting with police officers and requiring the application of less-lethal measures is entirely another. This won’t end well for them, and it shouldn’t.
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To put it it in perspective....

”Following the arrival of the United Kingdom's newest aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth on Wednesday at Naval Station Mayport, six British sailors were taken into custody, the Jacksonville Beach Police Department said.

According to police, most of the sailors were taken in on drunk and disorderly charges, but three were charged with resisting arrest.

One of the three pushed and pulled an officer; the second refused to put his hands behind his back and was stunned by a Taser; and the third was actively fighting and refused to stop, officers said........

Officials said there have been no further issues since speaking with the ship's leaders.

A sergeant with the police department said the sailors were getting into drunken fights mostly with one another.”.......

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Old 10th Sep 2018, 11:25
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They will be looking at Captains report and possible dismissal. They will be harshly treated and rightly so. I would not want to be one of them.
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Compared to how similar offences were dealt with in front of TV cameras on Sailor. They were either reprimanded or stopped leave.
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Drunken British sailors are invading Florida and beating each other up...

Drunken British sailors are invading Florida and beating each other up, because why not?

The redcoats are coming, the redcoats are coming — to fight at a bar near you.
Watering holes everywhere in the vicinity of Naval Station Mayport experienced a major boon in business this week after British sailors from the Royal Navy’s prized new carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth arrived in the northeast Florida port of Jacksonville Beach.Hundreds of sailors rambled off the ship Wednesday following a weeks-long journey that marked the 65,000-ton vessel’s first transatlantic voyage. And as is tradition with navies around the world, a pressing matter had to be attended to immediately upon exiting the hulking ship — the ancient mariner rite of drinking to the point of annihilation.
With only a few days on land before heading back to sea, the Queen Elizabeth’s occupants stormed the beaches of Jacksonville ready to declare war and conquer any and all alcoholic beverages that stood in their way.
“I think we need a modern day Paul Revere to let us know that the British are coming,” Keith Doherty, a general manager at Lynch’s Irish Pub in Jacksonville Beach, told the Florida Times-Union. “I know a lot of places were understaffed and that caused a lot of issues.”The plight of understaffed service, however, wound up being on the lighter side of the evening’s tribulations, as the number of alcohol-induced escapades inevitably soared Wednesday night and into Thursday morning.
As any who have deployed or spent time on ship can attest, the accumulation of aggression while confined to tight quarters in the middle of an ocean can have a profound impact on the human psyche.
This often manifests through booze-fueled skirmishes or other shenanigans when personnel find themselves liberated from the bowels of a floating prison and once more on the familiar environs of dry land. It’s practically tradition, and the Brits dared not break from it.Doherty told the Times-Union he heard the number of such skirmishes were in the hundreds.All the angry people, where do they all come from? These tall tales were refuted by Sgt. Larry Smith of the Jacksonville Beach Police Department, who told the Times-Union that six Queen Elizabeth sailors had been taken into custody for drunken and disorderly conduct, which included public urination and fighting. Three sailors were charged with resisting arrest, and at least one necessitated a tasing. What would a Florida-based story be, after all, without at least one person needing a tasing?
Fights with the host Floridians, meanwhile, were reportedly nonexistent, as the blokes from across the pond evidently managed to keep the raucous behavior to themselves. “These guys come in town periodically,” Smith said. “They beat the mess out of each other and fight each other more than anything, but once they pick up their teeth off the ground they are best friends.”One complaint from bar and restaurant owners about the visiting seamen was nearly universal: tipping. “They tipped a little under 10 percent," Haleigh Snow, manager at Poe’s Tavern in Atlantic Beach, told the Times-Union. “I don’t think they knew they were doing anything wrong.”
International tipping customs aside, Smith said local police have had no additional issues since the incidents were first reported to the ship’s top brass.
While these mishaps certainly don’t make the best first impressions on locals, the concept of going a little overboard during a port visit is one familiar to many Americans.
Just this year, at least six junior enlisted Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit were busted down in rank for vandalism and drunk and disorderly conduct during a port visit to Gaeta, Italy, with the San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship New York.The mariner tradition must go on.The carrier Queen Elizabeth, which left its home of Portsmouth, England, on Aug. 18, is next destined for Maryland, where two embarked U.S. F-35B Lightning II aircraft from Naval Air Station Patuxent River will make their first landings and takeoffs from the ship’s 280-meter deck.Here’s to hoping bars in the land of pleasant living adequately prepare for the arrival of her majesty’s namesake.
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funny about the tipping - I was once told by a waitress in Las Vegas "tipping here is 20% not 15% like you guys tip in Canada," When I pointed out we were Brits "Jeez!!
even worse - lousy 10% tippers".......
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funny about the tipping
My understanding is that the IRS assume that the tip will be 15% of the total bill and tax the server accordingly! (The receipt will have the server number automatically appended and the IRS know who served what). No wonder that they get shirty with poor tipping by Brits.
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Well, 10% would be fine if the business paid the waitresses an adequate wage in the first place like they do in Europe!
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Old 11th Sep 2018, 03:02
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Well, 10% would be fine if the business paid the waitresses an adequate wage in the first place like they do in Europe!
Or, 10% 0% would be fine if the business paid the waitresses an adequate wage in the first place like they do in Europe! Australia and Japan!
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Agreed! It's all relative..
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Old 11th Sep 2018, 06:14
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They will be looking at Captains report and possible dismissal. They will be harshly treated and rightly so. I would not want to be one of them.
No they won't.
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Old 11th Sep 2018, 06:57
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This is only news because of what ship it is. The worst offender may receive a warrant punishment, the others disrating (if they have any to lose), fines and stoppage of leave. If they face any civil punishment then they will have to request to be awarded consequential naval penalties.

Beating the crap out of each other doesn't really suggest it is a happy ship.
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