Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

RAF Mildenhall Closure?

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

RAF Mildenhall Closure?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th Aug 2018, 20:19
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question RAF Mildenhall Closure?

Evening All

With reading about RAF Mildenhall going to close at some point in the future, what will become of Mildenhall another deserted airfield like the rest of the other USAF bases that have closed ?
GLIDER 90 is offline  
Old 10th Aug 2018, 22:54
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,001
Received 2,893 Likes on 1,238 Posts
After they dig up everything to extract the gravel..... Unless there is a clause somewhere in the initial agreement from when it was built that it has to be removed and reverts to farmland or it is sold back to the original land owner.


Google Greenham Common and look at it now, the runways and taxiways were dug up and reclaimed with the gravel extracted, it was turned into a nature reserve, the cruise missile silos that still exist and were used as a film lot for one of the later Star Wars rebel bases.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 12:35
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Next to Ross and Demelza
Age: 53
Posts: 1,235
Received 51 Likes on 20 Posts
And we have all this debate about runway capacity (or lack of) in the south east. Wouldn't Greenham Common have been an ideal location?
Martin the Martian is online now  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 13:05
  #4 (permalink)  
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lincolnshire
Age: 81
Posts: 16,777
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
A problem with a lot of the former US airfields is the remediation costs. Their electrical systems are usually 110v and many other systems are designed around US requirements. When Bentwaters was handed back to Defence Training Estate it was a poisoned chalice.
Pontius Navigator is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 13:06
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Greenham Common would have been an ideal base for a civil airport, where they could have built a large cargo hub like at East Midlands Airport. With the growing population of the UK it seems to be houses etc, but why spend money on an airfield improving the taxiways and ramp when it is down for closure at some point.
GLIDER 90 is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 13:34
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kammbronn
Posts: 2,122
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by GLIDER 90
................ but why spend money on an airfield improving the taxiways and ramp when it is down for closure at some point.
Investment in infrastructure has traditionally been an indicator of impending disposal.
diginagain is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 14:04
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,001
Received 2,893 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Good selection of Greenham how it is now here

NutLoose is online now  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 18:39
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hotel this week, hotel next week, home whenever...
Posts: 1,492
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Marshalls

It may be old age, but do I not remember some talk of MoC moving out there? Might have been dreaming....
Duchess_Driver is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 18:42
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Nairobi
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Keep an eye on the house prices.. They are going to tank, along with the economy in that area.
Igundwane is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 19:07
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: somewhere special
Age: 46
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Igundwane
Keep an eye on the house prices.. They are going to tank, along with the economy in that area.
Doubt it, house prices are booming in that area. People will gladly commute to Cambridge and Bury St Edmunds. As Lakenheath is staying open there will still be healthy demand for local businesses and services.

The A11 corridor, now it's all dual carriageway, is attracting a lot of regional investment and focus.
Herc-u-lease is offline  
Old 11th Aug 2018, 19:16
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cheshire
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Herc-u-lease
Doubt it, house prices are booming in that area. People will gladly commute to Cambridge and Bury St Edmunds. As Lakenheath is staying open there will still be healthy demand for local businesses and services.

The A11 corridor, now it's all dual carriageway, is attracting a lot of regional investment and focus.
Absolutely, the future for Mildenhall (IF) it closes is likely to be thousands of new houses, to serve the booming Cambridge economy. The MoD is under massive pressure to release as much land as possible in order to feed our Governments perverse desire to concrete over as much of the UK as possible. Quite why the worlds 5th largest economy still has an insatiable appetite for "growth" is beyond me, but there you go.

Have a read about the Ox-MK-Cam corridor if you are in any doubt about the madness that our elected officials want to unleash on us.
andrewn is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 07:14
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
" in order to feed our Governments perverse desire to concrete over as much of the UK as possible. "

actually it's to try and build houses for people to live in where they're needed
Heathrow Harry is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 08:12
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cheshire
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fundamentally Harry there is no "Housing Crisis", it's more an affordability issue. The current house buillding cycle and planning system is rigged to ensure maximum ROI for the developers. If you think differently you are deluded, sorry.

In an Island nation as densely packed as ours only a dotard (or people being bribed) would sanction national housebuilding targets of 300k per annum, let alone a million new homes inbetween Oxford and Cambridge and related "expressway".

Amazes me that large swathes of the population actually swallow the utter twaddle that officialdom feed us, with little or no challenge.
andrewn is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 08:40
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cheshire
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Igundwane
Keep an eye on the house prices.. They are going to tank, along with the economy in that area.
I see your location is Nairobi, so I'm guessing BBC World News is giving endlessly depressing updates on how the UK is heading for economic collapse and global isolation post-brexit?

The truth, especially in that part of the UK, is somewhat different. The regional assemblies, LEPs and house builders cant wait for the Americans to leave so they can get their greedy paws on the land.

Personally I still live in hope of a reversal on the Mildenhall closure decision.
andrewn is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 09:45
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
from the Beeb:-

UK National Ecosystem Assessment (NEA) .Five hundred experts analysed vast quantities of data and produced what they claim is the first coherent body of evidence about the state of Britain's natural environment.Having looked at all the information, they calculated that "6.8% of the UK's land area is now classified as urban" (a definition that includes rural development and roads, by the way).
Report from the UK National Ecosystem Assessment - key findings [6.4MB]Most computers will open PDF documents automatically, but you may need Adobe Reader

Download the reader here

The urban landscape accounts for 10.6% of England, 1.9% of Scotland, 3.6% of Northern Ireland and 4.1% of Wales.

Put another way, that means almost 93% of the UK is not urban. But even that isn't the end of the story because urban is not the same as built on. In urban England, for example, the researchers found that just over half the land (54%) in our towns and cities is greenspace - parks, allotments, sports pitches and so on.Furthermore, domestic gardens account for another 18% of urban land use; rivers, canals, lakes and reservoirs an additional 6.6%.

Their conclusion? In England, "78.6% of urban areas is designated as natural rather than built". Since urban only covers a tenth of the country, this means that the proportion of England's landscape which is built on is… 2.27%
Heathrow Harry is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 10:46
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Cambridge
Age: 55
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BigGreenGilbert
There was a study with various options, including Mildlenhall, Wyton and a couple of the other places. I am pretty sure Marshal had no desire to move - the city is after the land!
That's certainly their stated position, but rumour has it that it was a sop to the older generation of the family, and once they were gone, and the price was right, they would sell up and move (with Mildenhall a likely candidate).
BigDotStu is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 10:51
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cheshire
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh dear, resorting to meaningless statistics - always a sure sign the argument is being lost

Have you tried "urbanising" Ben Nevis, or the Peaks, or mid Wales. Not really possible is it? So when you take out the large swathes that are practically uninhabitable you are left with what we have, which is a fairly small area to chuck 70M people, 20M cars and 300k additional houses per annum.

If you dont believe me, leave your ivory tower and take a drive on most major roads and motorways at any time of the day and I'll think you'll see what I mean.

Anyway, this is degenerating, but thanks again for the useless stats; I recall the beeb regurgitating this garbage a couple of years ago just prior to the Govt ripping up planning policy guidelines!
andrewn is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 10:53
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: cheshire
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BigDotStu
That's certainly their stated position, but rumour has it that it was a sop to the older generation of the family, and once they were gone, and the price was right, they would sell up and move (with Mildenhall a likely candidate).
If I was in MCE position and I held all the ace cards I'd be holding out for as long as was necessary really....
andrewn is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 10:56
  #19 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would like to see Mildenhall kept open as an airbase, from what I have read theirs problems with them moving to Germany with the noise level from the aircraft and reduced flying time, because the germans don't like flying at weekends.
GLIDER 90 is offline  
Old 12th Aug 2018, 12:11
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London, New York, Paris, Moscow.
Posts: 3,632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GLIDER 90
I would like to see Mildenhall kept open as an airbase, from what I have read theirs problems with them moving to Germany with the noise level from the aircraft and reduced flying time, because the germans don't like flying at weekends.
From experience it's the weekends that the deployment/ return activity can be at it's highest..

From what I have heard the Polish can't wait for the NATO money to flow...
glad rag is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.