Israel flies stealth missions over Iranian nuclear bases
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Israel flies stealth missions over Iranian nuclear bases
Article in The Times today.
Mind you, the next sentence in the article might give an impression of the depth of knowledge of the journalist...
Israel has been flying its new stealth fighter-jets over Iranian nuclear bases, according to a Kuwaiti newspaper that is thought to be used as an outlet for Israeli messages to the Arab world.
The al-Jarida newspaper claimed this week that two of Israel’s F-35 fighters flew over Syria and Iraq to reach Iranian airspace and were undetected by radar. Israeli officials did not respond to the report in the newspaper.
The al-Jarida newspaper claimed this week that two of Israel’s F-35 fighters flew over Syria and Iraq to reach Iranian airspace and were undetected by radar. Israeli officials did not respond to the report in the newspaper.
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How much do you think Mr Putin, Pooh Bear or the Young Leader would pay for a damaged F-35?????? Or even parts of it..........
Even the best Air Forces occasionally lose an advanced aircraft - often due to mechanical issues
Even the best Air Forces occasionally lose an advanced aircraft - often due to mechanical issues
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The combat radius of the F-35A is 590nm. The one way range from Israel to a site in Iran, such as Natanz, is 1100nm. Figure it out.
Even assuming they have a suitable friend provide a tanker over the Gulf they would be sucking on fumes to reach it - and without any acceptable diversion if there were a problem.
You could hypothesise about tanking over Saudi etc - but that’s not what the story states, but might be trying to imply. In which case it is, depending on the source, the story is as likely to be propaganda as truth.
Even assuming they have a suitable friend provide a tanker over the Gulf they would be sucking on fumes to reach it - and without any acceptable diversion if there were a problem.
You could hypothesise about tanking over Saudi etc - but that’s not what the story states, but might be trying to imply. In which case it is, depending on the source, the story is as likely to be propaganda as truth.
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Quoting "The al-Jarida newspaper claimed this week that two of Israel’s F-35 fighters flew over Syria and Iraq to reach Iranian airspace and were undetected by radar".
Looks like these newspaper guys were on both sides at the same time :-)
"Hey, we are flying, do you see us? No."
For HH: do not overestimate a value of F-35 for Russia, either in pieces, or as a whole. Some old and well-known stuff....
Looks like these newspaper guys were on both sides at the same time :-)
"Hey, we are flying, do you see us? No."
For HH: do not overestimate a value of F-35 for Russia, either in pieces, or as a whole. Some old and well-known stuff....
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Plinking Palestians in their barbed wire cage is a national sport for those guys. Flying single engine bombers to Iran is a whole 'nuther game.
It required very unstealthy tankering; and that required the co-operation of the gum-chewing conquerors of Iraqi airspace (plus a bit of Nelsonian diplomacy by the Hashem guy).
It required very unstealthy tankering; and that required the co-operation of the gum-chewing conquerors of Iraqi airspace (plus a bit of Nelsonian diplomacy by the Hashem guy).
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The most interesting part of this thread to me is that the same guys who author virulent anti-American posts are even more vehemently anti-Israeli. Kinda speaks to where their heart is at.
ARI: Clearly managed to get hold of the tanker version of the B2. There's been 6 converted I believe....
...and that required the co-operation of the gum-chewing conquerors.....
I think you will find that Israel has their own tankers, around five or six boom equipped 707-320's (and maybe even a KC-135). While information on these assets is sparse, they exist and they should be quite capable of supporting the F-35, even without the evil, gum chewing USA or the Saudis being involved....
Would not be surprised if a few A operators go with the probe of the B and C versions to allow refueling from drogues. Believe the space is still there on the A.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The question being the fuel would be required over or to the east of Syria or Saudi Arabia both outbound and on return - and how you would expect a non-stealthy Israel based tanker to get from A to B and return.
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Can you imagine the furore if the Russkies were to put a brace of MiGs or Sukhois or White Swans into the London or Scottish FIRs and orbit over Aldermaston, Burghfield, Coulport or Porton Down?
BoJo would be straight over to the UNSC with a quivering lower lip to throw his rattle out of his pram. Somehow when it's the Israelis who are the aggressors: not a peep.
One does wonder why the Israelis took the risk with single engine aircraft for no particular dividend. As has been pointed out, the wreckage of a crashed F-35 would fetch a few Roubles or Yuan. The Iranians don't like Dollars nowadays, but Roubles and Yuan are much in demand as they are a much 'harder' currency than the debauched greenback.
BoJo would be straight over to the UNSC with a quivering lower lip to throw his rattle out of his pram. Somehow when it's the Israelis who are the aggressors: not a peep.
One does wonder why the Israelis took the risk with single engine aircraft for no particular dividend. As has been pointed out, the wreckage of a crashed F-35 would fetch a few Roubles or Yuan. The Iranians don't like Dollars nowadays, but Roubles and Yuan are much in demand as they are a much 'harder' currency than the debauched greenback.
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"how you would expect a non-stealthy Israel based tanker to get from A to B and return."
maybe they came across a friendly tanker from someone else along the way??? You know how it goes - you're stooging along, hosepipes deployed an when you get back to base you've inadvertently lost 10,000 litres of fuel.... "never saw nuffin Boss - and there was nothing on the radar either - go check ..."
Might even get you a promotion ..................
maybe they came across a friendly tanker from someone else along the way??? You know how it goes - you're stooging along, hosepipes deployed an when you get back to base you've inadvertently lost 10,000 litres of fuel.... "never saw nuffin Boss - and there was nothing on the radar either - go check ..."
Might even get you a promotion ..................
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If a British soldier shot a kid in Northern Ireland for throwing a stone during the troubles, he'd spend the rest of his life in Jail. Quite rightly.
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"If a British soldier shot a kid in Northern Ireland for throwing a stone during the troubles, he'd spend the rest of his life in Jail. Quite rightly."
these days you're right - but not the Paras at Bloody Sunday.................
The Israelis have a poor sense of proportion - over-reaction every time
these days you're right - but not the Paras at Bloody Sunday.................
The Israelis have a poor sense of proportion - over-reaction every time