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F-15's Attempt to Intercept Mystery Aircraft Over Oregon

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Old 17th Nov 2017, 17:55
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[QUOTE=Airbubba;9959425]Yep, that 'I wuz at Red Flag and went to a part of the range that I wasn't supposed to know about' story has many variants. In the late '80's I heard a version from an EC-130 driver, a few years later it was an RF-4 front seater that told the tale. And, over the years I've worked with a couple of folks that really did have business to conduct in Area 51, they don't talk about it as much.

Anyway, we need to maintain COMSEC here, the media is already on the trail of the supersecret Dreamland connection to the incident:



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/492985...-near-area-51/


That’s a laugh from the above article -the transportation of the X-47B caption is of transporting a UFO 👽😎

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Oregon adjoins the state of Washington, right?
Where were the first 'flying saucers' (UFOs) reported back in 1947?
Mount Rainier,Washington State!
There have been many cases since then of fighters all over the continental USA being scrambled to 'chase' objects which couldn't be found by the fighters.
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Was it a giant flying phallus!?
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UFO, obviously.
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Salute!

I can remember when the Eagle guys taped rifle scopes to one side of the HUD to get a long range I.D. 'course, we had TISEO and such for some planes back then but not on the early Eagles.
It's way before my time, but I believe Royal Air Force F4 Phantoms had a periscope from retired Chieftain tanks fitted onto the left hand side of the cockpit, for the Nav to identify aircraft when on a QRA scramble .

I'm surprised that the F-15 still don't have a Infra Red Search and Track camera built into their nose like Typhoon, Rafael, SU-27, MiG-29, Gripen.


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RAF Phantom FGR2 and F-4J(UK) had the Telescope Optical Sighting System (TESS) fitted to the LHS of the navigator's cockpit late in service life. It had a 6-degree field of view and 10 x magnification allowing the navigator to visually identify targets before reaching minimum launch range for Skyflash.



USAF F-4E had Target ID System Electro-Optical (TISEO) fitted on the LH wing leading edge.
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Salute!

Yeah, TISEO, that's the sytem I was thinking of for the Double Ugly, and I think the F-14 had something similar.

As far as Dreamland goes, it's good to hear someone use that term versus Area 51. All of us back to the 60's knew about Groom Lake.Nobody called it Area 51 until some novels and movies named it in late 80's or so. We also called it "The Box", and were briefed to avoid it during our Red Flag exercises or face the debriefs. There was more going on there than neat jets, and one day as I passed the north valley leading into the base I got pinged by a foreign radar, not Pact but from a European country. This was in early years of Have Blue, so they were likely evaluating the RCS of the prototypes.

I personally know two ex-commanders of the place, and one flew the Shamu, aka Tacit Blue. He also flew other things but you could not pin him down about details. 'course, I know many folks from the initial F-117 crowd, as they mostly came from the Sluf and Viper units I was in.

I still feel the episode has some "fishy" smell to it. Oh well, "nothing to be seen here, move on".

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Originally Posted by gums
Salute!

Yeah, TISEO, that's the sytem I was thinking of for the Double Ugly, and I think the F-14 had something similar.

As far as Dreamland goes, it's good to hear someone use that term versus Area 51. All of us back to the 60's knew about Groom Lake.Nobody called it Area 51 until some novels and movies named it in late 80's or so. We also called it "The Box", and were briefed to avoid it during our Red Flag exercises or face the debriefs. There was more going on there than neat jets, and one day as I passed the north valley leading into the base I got pinged by a foreign radar, not Pact but from a European country. This was in early years of Have Blue, so they were likely evaluating the RCS of the prototypes.

I personally know two ex-commanders of the place, and one flew the Shamu, aka Tacit Blue. He also flew other things but you could not pin him down about details. 'course, I know many folks from the initial F-117 crowd, as they mostly came from the Sluf and Viper units I was in.

I still feel the episode has some "fishy" smell to it. Oh well, "nothing to be seen here, move on".

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Hey Gums,

Was it not called 51 because of the DoE classifying various of the nuclear test ranges numerically?

Anyhow it’s now been given an ICAO code KXTA and known as Homey Airport now

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...ort-identifier

I guess with the fatal crash the other month of ‘Doc’ up in the TTR -there is a lot of 2+2=117/119 etc
For those of us who attended Dubai in the week....plenty of chances to see Sukhoi SU-30 (Russian Knights )Si- 35 up close and personal and even PLAAF August 1st J-10 so here are my photos below







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As far as Dreamland goes, it's good to hear someone use that term versus Area 51.
A 2012 ATC Letter of Agreement for Dreamland Control is here:

http://inplanesight.org/faa_nellis/drm_nellis_loa.pdf

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I personally know two ex-commanders of the place, and one flew the Shamu, aka Tacit Blue. He also flew other things but you could not pin him down about details.
Col. Tarlton signed the LOA above and lists his time with Det. 3 on his LinkedIn profile:

Commander, Operations Group
United States Air Force
June 2010 – June 2012 (2 years 1 month)

Led 600+ military/contractor/government team comprised of 11 diverse squadrons conducting developmental and operational testing at a national test facility. Directed operations and maintenance for 25 aircraft types, and execute an $84M annual budget utilizing $4B in national assets.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-tarlton-227a1998

A former colleague of mine was closely involved with a cruise missile derivative of the Tacit Blue project designated the Tri-Service Standoff Attack Missile. The TSSAM had a Tasmanian Devil mascot and I presume a Tacit codeword. It was cancelled in 1994.

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Was it not called 51 because of the DoE classifying various of the nuclear test ranges numerically?

Anyhow it’s now been given an ICAO code KXTA and known as Homey Airport now
A well placed source who has reported reliably in the past tells me that airport code XTA stands for Xtra Terrestial Airport.

Whether Area 51 was a real Atomic Energy Commission map designation or a ruse to make it appear part of the adjacent Nevada Test Site is unclear (to me at least). Recent maps don't seem to have Area numbers above 30 or so.

Jeffrey Richelson famously posted this map (the AEC was abolished in 1975, I presume it is older from the Test Site label) in 2013 in the George Washington University National Security Archive:

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Tyler Rogoway publishes a follow-up article with some additional ATC video and audio from the incident.

You Need To Hear These FAA Tapes From That Oregon UFO Incident That Sent F-15s Scrambling

New evidence offers great detail of the bizarre event and provides unprecedented insight into how such a unique incident is dealt with in real time.

By Tyler Rogoway February 15, 2018

Last November, The War Zone posted an exclusive story detailing a bizarre incident involving an unidentified aircraft that transited the skies of the Pacific Northwest in the early evening of October 25th, 2017. What started as a radar target moving at very high speed over Northern California turned into a series of eyewitness accounts made by nearby airline pilots traveling northward over Oregon. Even F-15 fighters were launched to intercept the mysterious intruder that quickly became invisible to radar.

Now, through the Freedom of Information Act, we present what could be one of the most insightful instances of official documentation surrounding such an encounter that had already been confirmed to have occurred by both the FAA and the USAF. These materials include fascinating audio recordings of radio transmissions and phone calls made as the incident was unfolding, as well as pilot interviews, and conversations between FAA officials made in the aftermath of the highly peculiar incident.
More here: You Need To Hear These FAA Tapes From That Oregon UFO Incident That Sent F-15s Scrambling - The Drive
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