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Rumour: 25 or 43 to return?

Old 21st Aug 2017, 19:02
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Rumour: 25 or 43 to return?

I heard a good rumour today that 25 or 43 Sqn is being considered for a return. Anyone else heard the same? Is it for one of the new Typhoon sqns?

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Old 21st Aug 2017, 19:10
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Right location. Wrong aircraft.

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Old 21st Aug 2017, 19:25
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Yes, I heard XXV...



Maybe they're standing up a new PAC-3 Patriot Squadron to counter the threat from North Korea?

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Old 21st Aug 2017, 19:35
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Well it definately sounds like it's 25 then.

BV is that splitting up the 28 Hawk T2s assigned to 4 Sqn?

Changing the tack, does that mean 43 is coming back for one of the Typhoon sqns? I'm guessing that IX, 12 or 31 will be in the running for the other?

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Old 21st Aug 2017, 19:39
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Indeed, what will the T6 Sqn become if 72 run on Tucano until 2019/20?

The UK Ministry of Defence (UKMOD) intends to place a contract single source for Tucano In Service Support with Babcock Aerospace Limited for a period of 1 year from 1.4.2016. The UKMOD considers it can do this under regulation 16(1)(a)(ii) of the Defence and Security Public Contracts Regulations 2011 (Article 28(1)(e) of Directive 2009/81/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council) for technical reasons because Babcock is the only company with the necessary skills, knowledge and expertise in Tucano to meet the UKMOD's requirement and in the time scales it requires. To place the contract with another supplier for an ageing aircraft with an Out of Service Date of 31.10.2019 without the requisite level of knowledge would result in an unacceptable safety risk in the operation of the aircraft and, thereby, unacceptably compromising its operation.

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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 07:21
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You are strangely perceptive. I couldn't possibly comment, though.

Personally I was hoping 19 could make a comeback. You can't please everyone I suppose.

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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 13:40
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BV it would be fitting if 19 came back. As a confirmed Duxford man it would be great to see the RAF's first Spitfire squadron making a comeback.


As indeed it would be most fitting if the RAF's first monoplane fighter equipped squadron would reform as one of the new Typhoon AD squadrons ('Adstantes')
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 18:39
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BV it would be fitting if 19 came back. As a confirmed Duxford man it would be great to see the RAF's first Spitfire squadron making a comeback.


As indeed it would be most fitting if the RAF's first monoplane fighter equipped squadron would reform as one of the new Typhoon AD squadrons ('Adstantes')
Agreed Treble One, as would getting 56 Sqn back on a fighter Sqn. Thoroughly recommend McCudden's book 'Flying Fury'.

74 Sqn anyone?
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 20:03
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Re: 'Strangely perceptive'. My source said "stand by to see one of your old sqns return". That narrowed it and then the posts on here seem to be pointing at 25 with Hawks. Seeing as the 25 insignia is a Hawk then that would also make perfect sense.

As for 19. I suspect the fighting dolphins are way down the pecking order? But hey, I never saw 207 Sqn coming either (or 13 or 14 come to think of it!).

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56 will stay the ISTAR OEU and 54 the ISTAR OCU for sure. It would be great to see 'I fear Norman' the Tiger Sqn back again, but like 19 I suspect they are too far down the pecking order. It's all about uninterrupted history if you didn't know? I suspect we will see IX And 12 being given new mounts and possibly XV. Then we would have 1, II, 3, IV, V, 6, 7, 8, (IX), 10, XI, (12), 13, 14, (XV), 16, 17 and 18 - with the numbers in brackets the ones being chosen. I'm wondering now if my thoughts on 43 were poorly placed :-(

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If based at Lossiemouth, then no reason why 43 could not fill that slot given the Scottish connection.
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Originally Posted by iRaven View Post
Yes, I heard XXV...

Maybe they're standing up a new PAC-3 Patriot Squadron to counter the threat from North Korea?
RAF don't do SAM anymore since the Pongo's took it off the RAF Regt, which should have been the other way around as the Rocks put up a much better case for the RAF taking over all of Rapier.
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If based at Lossiemouth, then no reason why 43 could not fill that slot given the Scottish connection.
No doubt a certain 'Scottish Officer' would be particularly welcome at squadron reunions.....
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In terms of seniority surely the next proper squadron numberplate to be resurrected will be 22?

Seniority rules do no apply to Reserve Squadrons and time spent as a Reserve Squadron does not count toward seniority.

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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 09:51
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I think I read on here somewhere many moons ago, that when the last F3 Sqn was formed, 85 Sqn had seniority, but the Air officer in charge of such decisions was ex 25, so the number plate went there. I hope 43 get the new Typhoon Sqn, as a lot of people look on it as the Scottish Sqn.
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Originally Posted by pr00ne View Post
In terms of seniority surely the next proper squadron numberplate to be resurrected will be 22?

Seniority rules do no apply to Reserve Squadrons and time spent as a Reserve Squadron does not count toward seniority.
They seem to have added a 'role' element to the seniority rule sin recent years (when it suits them). I also heard a rumour the concept of calling them 'Reserve' squadrons was going to be dropped.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 10:48
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I can't be the only one who looks at threads like this and wonder how much it really matters?

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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 10:56
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Are you sure you live on the sunny side? Most of your posts seem to suggest you live somewhere far darker.

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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 12:25
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Are you sure you live on the sunny side? Most of your posts seem to suggest you live somewhere far darker.

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Just asking a reasonable question - wondering how much it matters to the majority of the RAF? I think if I asked many of the military staff I work with, they would care very little.

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