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Old 5th Jul 2017, 08:01
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Pax b et al, Get this right, there are NO "Ascension Islanders". You can't even remain if you die there!

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Old 5th Jul 2017, 10:14
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OAP, but there is a cemetery. I neglected to get any photos when I was there. I got someone on Serco to agree to take individual grave photos, sent them an box of film and heard nothing thereafter.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Flap62
Atakacs,
Ascension really has no part to play in modern commercial trans-atlantic planning. Doesn't even apoear on the charts really.
Interesting. I was under the impression that it was definitely considered in diversion scenario.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 10:57
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
OAP, but there is a cemetery. I neglected to get any photos when I was there. I got someone on Serco to agree to take individual grave photos, sent them an box of film and heard nothing thereafter.
Yes, from the 1700's.

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there are graves from WW1 era on Ascension definitely.

https://graveyarddetective.com/tag/ascension-island/
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Originally Posted by tescoapp
there are graves from WW1 era on Ascension definitely.

https://graveyarddetective.com/tag/ascension-island/
Yes, you might be right.

There are no Dinosaur bones there!

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Old 5th Jul 2017, 13:09
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Many are well before WW1. Remember Ascension was on the Admiralty books as a Sloop and guardship for St Helena.

I think the graves illustrated here were at Comfortless Cove. I found the following link on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site:

http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/...NEW%20CEMETERY

Quite sobering if you look at the number of graves. Found 8 war graves, 7 from WW 1 and one from WW2.

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Was not the Xymotic Hotel named for the isolation hospital on the site which housed yellow fever sufferers in the days of sail. Their remains would certainly never have been repatriated.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 13:55
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I just used the phrase Ascension islanders to cover longer term workers from UK and also a significant number of St Helena islanders 2who work on the Ascension facilites.

I always knew it was hard to get to I didnt realise that you couldnt stay even if you died.

Were trans (south ) atlantic ETOPS dependent on Ascension f or can they manage without it now the single engine times have increased, I know it was not advertised as such but that flights had landed there when there were problems.
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Bing/atakacs...

Just to second Flap's comments whilst the Delta diversion is of interest I thought the question posed was the use of Ascension as a alternate on Europe - South America services.

Most of those flights tend to have a route which goes "feet wet" off Morocco or even further north, Routes over or abeam Tenerife, and then uses the likes of Dakar at the northern end and Recife or Fortaleza at the southern side as nominated ETOPS alternates... ETOPS planning aside I've never seen ASI as being anything like "nearest suitable" on those routes it is simply too far off to the east.

The Delta flight that did go there was obviously routing from a North America to South Africa, so not surprised ASI was more likely going to come into play.
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Pax b, Yes, it is quite difficult to even visit. HMG don't want anyone to have permanent status there as that would involve liabilities and expense. The best you can do (other than work there) is a short visit, with permission!

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Asi Cemetery

Originally Posted by Onceapilot
Pax b et al, Get this right, there are NO "Ascension Islanders". You can't even remain if you die there!

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Have a look here-there seem to be lots of graves:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...!4d-14.4175675
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Pontious, the 4 pictures in that link show the main cemetery just south of Georgetown. I think Bonetta Cemetery is behind Comfortless Cove and is on the northwest of the island. The graves there are much more rudimentary, all above ground basically just piles of volcanic rock. I was told that people with yellow fever were offloaded at that part of the island as it was remote from HMS Bonetta hence the name.
Great place to spend a couple of weeks with a good crew.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 18:13
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Sorry they are not great quality.
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One of the older bit of Georgetown.

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Originally Posted by Cows getting bigger
P'raps we should ask The Trump to sort-out his runway............... or leave; happy Independence Day.

Personally I would have a go at St Helena but I suspect the Voyager boys and girls would find that just a little short.
A little short? Surely all it needs is a very large brave pill and size 13 boots, steel toe cap, braking hard for the use of?!

Joking apart, what's the largest aircraft to ever have been fitted with a drag 'chute? Victors had them. I wonder how hard it would be to put one on the A330? I guess the APU is in the way...
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 18:49
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Msbarrat, Concorde had a TBC, but military wise, B47, B52.
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msbbarrett. Just attach one to a ring bolt, and watch it pull the tail off. Most aircraft with chutes were designed to have them. Not so airliners (concorde excepted)
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Early Caravelles and some Tupolev airliners were certainly fitted with brake parachutes.
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Originally Posted by BEagle
Early Caravelles and some Tupolev airliners were certainly fitted with brake parachutes.
I think I have seen them on aircraft as large as a KC767 but as part of the test equipment.
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