Last C-17 to go to India...........
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Last C-17 to go to India...........
The U.S. State Department has approved the possible sale to India of one Boeing C-17 transport aircraft, with an estimated cost of $366 million, a Pentagon agency said on Monday.
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement it notified Congress on Monday of the sale, which includes four turbofan engines, a missile warning system, a countermeasures dispensing system and an identification friend or foe transponder.
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The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement it notified Congress on Monday of the sale, which includes four turbofan engines, a missile warning system, a countermeasures dispensing system and an identification friend or foe transponder.
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rather surprised Mr B didn't keep the line ticking over - I'd have thought there'd be a steady trickle of orders going forward - maybe not always bought in advance but willing to pick up a white tail off the shelf
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well the line is paid for so you have no major investment and you price each unit to reflect the cost of production + profit
Lot depends on how much of the Corproate Overhead you decide to load onto the programme but it keeps you in the game and, possibly more importantly, acts as road block to any new large freighter development by one of your rivals.............
Lot depends on how much of the Corproate Overhead you decide to load onto the programme but it keeps you in the game and, possibly more importantly, acts as road block to any new large freighter development by one of your rivals.............
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Close the line at the end of the DoD contract and closure costs are paid for my the taxpayer. Keep it open and all ongoing costs and final closure costs are paid for by the shareholders....
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...only it isn't.
CapEx is one thing, and probably well amortised, but the on-going op costs would sting. Cash is king!
- All the fixed assets (tooling, buildings, officers) depreciate on the balance sheet.
- The operational costs of wages for staff, recurrent training, and all supporting logistics (Stores, etc) continue and inflate with time
- The supply chain would need to be kept viable. Boeing's suppliers are not also going to hang around on the off-chance of getting onesy-twosey orders. In fact Boeing's suppliers could very well hit them with Minimum Order Quantities, meaning you pay a lot up front to build a one-er, and sit the surplus kit on the shelf (which you're now carrying on the balance sheet, depreciating, and may time-ex)
CapEx is one thing, and probably well amortised, but the on-going op costs would sting. Cash is king!
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It's too late now, at least for Boeing Long Beach where all the C-17 were built:
Boeing auctioned off all the heavy equipment in the facility. If there are anymore C-17s to be built, it won't be in Long Beach, CA.
A year and a half after the 279th — and last — C-17 military cargo plane took off from Long Beach Airport, Douglas Park, the former home of Boeing and Douglas Aircraft, is undergoing a renaissance.
Once-bustling assembly lines for Boeing’s C-17s and 717 commercial airliners and Douglas’ DC-8 passenger jets — not to mention a long list of other famed aircraft — have disappeared into the horizon of history.
But the former aerospace manufacturing hub at Lakewood Boulevard and Carson Street is fast becoming a hotbed of commercial and industrial activity, including for South Bay companies.
“Douglas Park is an economic home run for Long Beach,” said Mayor Robert Garcia.
City officials said they originally thought the 238-acre site, so named to honor its lofty past, would be finished by 2020. Now it appears the ambitious undertaking next to Long Beach Airport will be completed next year.
When it’s done, Douglas Park will feature 4.1 million square feet of building space and offer 5,000 jobs, city officials said recently.
That sounds like a lot. And it is. But it’s modest when stacked against the tens of thousands who gathered there for decades to assemble more than 15,000 passenger jets and warplanes.
Once-bustling assembly lines for Boeing’s C-17s and 717 commercial airliners and Douglas’ DC-8 passenger jets — not to mention a long list of other famed aircraft — have disappeared into the horizon of history.
But the former aerospace manufacturing hub at Lakewood Boulevard and Carson Street is fast becoming a hotbed of commercial and industrial activity, including for South Bay companies.
“Douglas Park is an economic home run for Long Beach,” said Mayor Robert Garcia.
City officials said they originally thought the 238-acre site, so named to honor its lofty past, would be finished by 2020. Now it appears the ambitious undertaking next to Long Beach Airport will be completed next year.
When it’s done, Douglas Park will feature 4.1 million square feet of building space and offer 5,000 jobs, city officials said recently.
That sounds like a lot. And it is. But it’s modest when stacked against the tens of thousands who gathered there for decades to assemble more than 15,000 passenger jets and warplanes.
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Don't know, it is in addition to the 10 they already have.
Doh! That will (or ought) to teach me not to post when virtually asleep on my feet!
Don't know, it is in addition to the 10 they already have.
Doh! That will (or ought) to teach me not to post when virtually asleep on my feet!
The U.S. State Department has approved the possible sale to India of one Boeing C-17 transport aircraft, with an estimated cost of $366 million, a Pentagon agency said on Monday.
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement it notified Congress on Monday of the sale, which includes four turbofan engines, a missile warning system, a countermeasures dispensing system and an identification friend or foe transponder.
Rueters
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a statement it notified Congress on Monday of the sale, which includes four turbofan engines, a missile warning system, a countermeasures dispensing system and an identification friend or foe transponder.
Rueters
well the line is paid for so you have no major investment and you price each unit to reflect the cost of production + profit
Boeing made the decision to build the last ten C-17s as white tails - betting a few billion dollars that they'd be able to sell them eventually. They did, but it took over three years to move all 10 aircraft.
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I know, I know - but a lot of it is in the accounting shuffle - the REAL cost I guess is keeping the people on teh production line up to speed
Cost -wise it will probably cost a lot more in the long run to spec., design, test and build a replacement
Cost -wise it will probably cost a lot more in the long run to spec., design, test and build a replacement
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
But they claim they won't need a new one for over 40 years. That's a long time to pay a company to keep a couple of thousand people and $Bs in assets tied up waiting for the odd order or two for a product which is rapidly becoming obsolete as engines, avionics and composite material technology moves on.
