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Old 8th May 2017, 13:58
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About a year ago, someone on this forum discussed getting hold of his military records. I'd like to get hold of mine, even if only for the "geld or destroy" comment on the 1369. Can anyone offer advice on how to go about it?
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Old 8th May 2017, 14:20
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This should do you nicely Sir. Fits all services until the postal address, but I'm not sure if you allowed to make alterations yourself, only the station tailor .....

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military...ur-own-records

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Old 8th May 2017, 16:18
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Oh, dear! Am I tempted? A career's-worth of F1369, to try and see where it went wrong? (I know where, actually).

A VERY naughty fellow JO showed me one of mine after it had been completed by the AOC. Interesting

(Oh, buggrit, form completed. I shall see what they really thought of me )

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Old 8th May 2017, 17:18
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Don't really want to know. Had some good bosses that showed me. Others that gave full and frank debriefs. One of my last was brilliant - not me - but when I told the RO.

A spec aircrew sqn ldr had drafted a report for the real sqn ldr. The following year the new sqn ldr gave me a debrief. When he finished I said, what a coincidence, that is identical to what A^ B^^^^^^^^n said last year. His face was a picture.
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Oh, dear! Am I tempted? A career's-worth of F1369, to try and see where it went wrong? (I know where, actually).

A VERY naughty fellow JO showed me one of mine after it had been completed by the AOC. Interesting

(Oh, buggrit, form completed. I shall see what they really thought of me )
Mine must have self-combusted some time ago.
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My interest lies mainly in the 'later years', when I had a succession of bosses who were not 'people people'. I knew statistically I wasn't going any further in my Branch (very narrow pyramid, we all knew each other and everyone's chances).

Just curious to discover if any of them actually had a clue who I was. The Scottish Air Cdre (as he was then) tried to get my former DD to give me a task, and had to be reminded that I had left the Directorate (with the D's specific permission, to take up another post) a few weeks earlier

Many giggles over the years, though. As a 2 year flt lt, I put "MoD" as my first choice of posting. My sqn ldr Boss observed "There aren't any flt lt posts at MoD". "Exactly, Sir " After further banter, he gave me a draft 1369 and 48 hours to return it filled out as if I was 1st RO! Two and a bit years later ... BINGO The next step was bloody slow, though!!

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Thank you, Lordflashheart. Like the others, I'm not sure whether I want to know, but since I left 40 years ago, what have I got to lose? (a bit of self-respect I suppose)
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Thank you, Lordflashheart. Like the others, I'm not sure whether I want to know, but since I left 40 years ago, what have I got to lose? (a bit of self-respect I suppose)
Or, perhaps, "See yourself as others see you"?

I promise to report back on the emotional experience

We are both too late to change, though.
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I did this a couple of years back (airman aircrew). There was plenty missing- not least a damning annual (can't remember the1369 equivalent) that another officer showed me briefly before my exit. That bloke didn't like me, that's for sure. Another omission was ground instructor stuff- I was an A1 GIT, but nothing. I had one medical issue the whole time, a bad knee on the ITC- you should see the pages that generated- blimey! Enjoyed the trip down mem lane tho'.

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I got mine at the turn of the year - everything from my Headmaster's recommendation for an RAF Scholarship, Outward Bound School report to my final F 1369, for 2 careers, all that was missing was my 5000 Series. Interesting to see who lied to you at the debrief, sometimes for good, sometimes for ill, and what could be written by those who did not even know you. Most interesting line, about the first Mrs W by my flight commander, "I have not met his wife". And that was the first career of 3 she had a go at wrecking......
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Old 8th May 2017, 19:02
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My RO advisor got his records which included all the reports of his abortive nav training. What surprised him was that it also included some of my training reports. I guess when we flew as Nav 1/2 the course commander may have put one report in each docket as we could have helped/hindered the other, especially on unscreened trips
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Old 8th May 2017, 19:10
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Is there a catch-all phrase to put in Part 3 to get the lot, rather than specifying types of record and dates?

Quite fancy reading some of my early stuff, like OC Nav School describing me as "garrulous and overly-familiar when drunk" which my boss showed me rather later in my career.
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Old 8th May 2017, 19:24
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Great stuff, all billed to the cash strapped MoD. Keep it up!
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99, was that still at the time with boxes Drinks Regularly and Unwisely etc?
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Old 8th May 2017, 20:11
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Surely there must be some trepidation in this venture. How about finding out if it was YOU that got the immortal report "Keeping this young officer in the service is depriving a perfectly good village of its idiot"!
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Old 8th May 2017, 20:20
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Tempted but would not like to see all the paperwork generated, when I gave my ASM a good pasting for having sex with my now ex wife. I was only a Sgt and got away somehow of not getting a Court Martial.
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Old 8th May 2017, 20:45
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I got mine a few years ago and on the very top - the very last piece of paper on the pile, of 24 years' records, was an offer of Promotion (that I didn't get) if I withdrew my PVR!
...and a full record of why I PVR'd lay behind it.
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Old 9th May 2017, 11:21
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Well, apart from myself, I know who shafted my career at particular points. One, which I think is the classic, is the 'new' sqn cdr when you have been on the sqn for two years.

I had been doing the sqn adjt job for two years (rather than the 6 months secondary duty). I was approaching tourex and suggested to the new CO, whom I had thought was human) that I might step down and allow someone else to carry on and I would be available if need be. I was accused of gross disloyalty.

Please to note that that CO was 1021'd in his next appointment.
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Old 9th May 2017, 11:32
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Does anyone have an indication of how long this process takes? I'm assuming 30 years of F1369 isn't going to be instantaneous, of course, unless they have a batch-file printing system set up.
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Forty working days seems to ring a bell.
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