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Iranian F-313 Qaher 'Stealth Fighter', and it appears to be real this time!

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Old 15th Apr 2017, 12:18
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Iranian F-313 Qaher 'Stealth Fighter', and it appears to be real this time!

After the comical images released previously of the F-313, this time it does at least appear to be real, since it actually moves under it's own power in the video clip...

https://theaviationist.com/2017/04/1...irst-analysis/

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It appears decidedly petite!

Is this a case of "we can" rather than fulfilling a specific need?
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I almost feel sorry for them at how embarrassing that dumpster fire of a design is.
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I almost feel sorry for them at how embarrassing that dumpster fire of a design is.
Or is it just Iranian willy-waving, in the hope someone will take them seriously?
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Not with a willy that size, I think.
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I might have expected to see the rudders move as the jet was turned under its own power....
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Or is it just Iranian willy-waving, in the hope someone will take them seriously?
It's got to be for internal consumption.
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I couldn't spot any alpha or beta vanes. Maybe they're hidden?
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Is it a HESA Saeqeh that has been covered in glue and pushed through Halford's 'body mods' aisle?
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Must be designed to combat these;


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Mainplane looked awfully thick. CG looks to be unusually far forward (based on the mainwheel positions). Shape seems to have way too many internal corners for something looking to have a low RCS.

But my main question would be how those intakes are supposed to work at any significant angle of attack.

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how those intakes are supposed to work at any significant angle of attack
And I wonder about a vortex from that LERX type surface feeding into the intake.
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Looks like the unholy offspring of an F117 mating with an F22
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Look at the canopy arch, that would give quite a big radar return. The intakes would be blanked as soon as you pulled anything more than about 7 AOA. The chord of the wing is way too thick for a performance fighter. Too many panel gaps, rivets and navigation lights to be propper stealthy. Sensor ball out in the breeze at the front will suffer above 300kts. The wings look like the same as those on tge MiG17, which are a distinctive shape, and then 'cut and shut' into a futuristic look - like some of Gerry Anderson's finest creations!


Another view...i suspect that the plastic would melt around the jet pipes as there is no protection!


This is the original mock up and note how the 'taxyable' version has a different canopy?i suspect this is just a dressed up model of the Saeqeh jet (see below).



This supposed 'stealth jet' is a DIY model and that is all. A Sixth Form student could do better as an A-level engineering project.

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Would've been better off reverse engineering the Tomcats!
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Better off building an Archon SF-1 microlight - at least it flies!!!
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Even as a layman the F-313 looks wrong in every way. The wings look too think, the pilot looks like he is sitting on rather than in the cockpit, the engines don't appear to have exhausts, the engine intakes are too small and look like they are obstructed by the fuselage, the FLIR looks like a last minute add on which would detract from any alleged stealth characteristics that the plane is supposed to have, the fuselage looks too wide and out of proportion compared to the wings and canards. Does the front under carriage even have doors? As for the downward sloping wing tips, how can they be aerodynamic in any way? I'm sure that they would add drag as well as making the plane very slabby which would mean larger radar returns when seen from the sides? Was it even taxiing under its own jet power as there didn't appear to be much in the way of haze coming from the exhausts. Why have twin tyres on the front undercarriage if this is supposed to be a light weight aircraft. Lastly what benefit is stealth for what is being described as a lightweight CAS aeroplane?
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How many wuld have thought the F117 'wrong' if shown an imageof it before it came out of the black?
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This is no F-117, Davef68.
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Perhaps they're contributing to Firefox 2?
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