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Jersey's Chief Civil Servant gets over £200k ... for an Island with 100k population 
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Parson, in addition to my early comment that many ranks are set against international rank structures. One example was our down ranking of DVD from 5* to 4* as US Forces only appoint a 5* in wartime.
What rank would you abolish? IMHO Colonel, Air Cdre and Cdre might be considered redundant. And 2* and 3* might be merged?
What rank would you abolish? IMHO Colonel, Air Cdre and Cdre might be considered redundant. And 2* and 3* might be merged?
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The Annual Compendium of RAF Manpower Statistics 2016 released by the Government Statistical Service:
RAF Trained Regular Officers
Wg Cdr
Liability 920
Strength 980
Surplus 60 (7%)
Gp Capt
Liability 210
Strength 300
Surplus 90 (42%)
Air Cdre & Above
Liability 70
Strength 110
Surplus 40 (64%)
That's 190 more Senior Officers more that the RAF needs whilst the majority of the remaining manpower is in deficit.
RAF Trained Regular Officers
Wg Cdr
Liability 920
Strength 980
Surplus 60 (7%)
Gp Capt
Liability 210
Strength 300
Surplus 90 (42%)
Air Cdre & Above
Liability 70
Strength 110
Surplus 40 (64%)
That's 190 more Senior Officers more that the RAF needs whilst the majority of the remaining manpower is in deficit.
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Interesting numbers, Mos Eisely ... and welcome aboard!
I wonder what all those 'surplus' officers do to pass the time?
I wonder what all those 'surplus' officers do to pass the time?
PN, Roland
Taking the air force as an example and looking at, say, the reduction in manpower since 1990, it is hard to justify having the same number of commissioned ranks. And as H Harry says, if you go back to WW2, when the rank structure was the same as today, it is even harder to justify. I'd say an air rank and Gp Capt could go.
Taking the air force as an example and looking at, say, the reduction in manpower since 1990, it is hard to justify having the same number of commissioned ranks. And as H Harry says, if you go back to WW2, when the rank structure was the same as today, it is even harder to justify. I'd say an air rank and Gp Capt could go.
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I've just been watching C4 news and I'm sure I saw that the average CEO or CM gets the equivalent of the total sum of 43 of his company employees salary.
So even in the worst possible scenario I don't think our Admirals cop that much.
Britain has problems but its wrong for the press or others to suddenly blame our Admirals as some sort of out of touch overpaid elite.
So even in the worst possible scenario I don't think our Admirals cop that much.
Britain has problems but its wrong for the press or others to suddenly blame our Admirals as some sort of out of touch overpaid elite.
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The heads of the RAAF and RCAF are 3*, RNZAF and RNoAF are 2*
DSACEUR and DSACLANT are both British 3*
So your point is valid in that smaller air forces have lower ranked heads but for international comparison, as Britain holds high level international posts it needs more stars.
DSACEUR and DSACLANT are both British 3*
So your point is valid in that smaller air forces have lower ranked heads but for international comparison, as Britain holds high level international posts it needs more stars.
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Its all just another sign of discontent with an elite, and this will continue for a long while yet. People are trying to drag the military (in this case the Navy) into it. Or conversely its an agitator suddenly trying to place the Naval High Command alongside a very highly paid corporate elite to covey some sort of brotherhood, who knows in this era of false news and the rest of it?
do we really have more Wing Commanders than combat aircraft?
< select a rank with more individuals than there are aircraft in aforementioned role >
< confect outrage >
Do we really have more air marshals than wide area land surveillance platforms?
Now look, you're going to get in trouble with the equality and diversity police. Surely the use of the term "able" is discriminatory - as is the use of the term seaman.
Obviously a new rank of "neutrally abled sea (or land) person" is required.
Obviously a new rank of "neutrally abled sea (or land) person" is required.