Red October or chilly November...
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Red October or chilly November...
Seems old Putin's not playing cricket sending subs out to play in the back yard before the new P-8A's arrive...
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
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Seems old Putin's not playing cricket sending subs out to play in the back yard before the new P-8A's arrive...
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
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The Daily Express, the same piece of garbage that brought us this...
Chemtrails 'will wipe out humans' causing biblical-style floods | Weird | News | Daily Express
The Daily Express, the same piece of garbage that brought us this...
Chemtrails 'will wipe out humans' causing biblical-style floods | Weird | News | Daily Express
Seems old Putin's not playing cricket sending subs out to play in the back yard before the new P-8A's arrive...
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
Russian nuclear subs flood British waters sparking major Navy hunt | UK | News | Daily Express
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Well, that is a great opportunity for our Nimrod sub hunters to get to work. Oooops, I forgot, we have no maritime capability in the RAF. That is difficult to understand given that we are a maritime nation.
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I'm still trying to work out how water can be flooded by something else.
There is a tide in the affairs of men,
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
So Shakespeare suggests that if you don't flood the tide with money it will end in tears, and:
On such a full sea are we now afloat,
And we must take the current when it serves
Or lose our ventures.
He also suggests that as a result we'll have to sell off the ATC motor-glider fleet.
Seemples...
PDR
This is just getting embarrassing
Still, not to worry. It's probably not true, and even if it is true the Russians can't do much. Oh hang on, erm, yes well I'm sure they can't all sail from the Artic the long way round into the Med and then fire a handful of cruise missiles.
But even if they could we've got MPA to track .... Erm. Well, still, the surface fleet is in good nick I hear .... Erm
Royal Navy to lose missiles and be left only with guns
This is just getting embarrassing. Having comprehensively decimated and defenestrated the Navy, spokesperson said:
To which I would ask 3 questions:
1. Do you think we really believe you?
2. Do you really believe yourself?
3. Are you embarrassed by what you have to do in your job?
But even if they could we've got MPA to track .... Erm. Well, still, the surface fleet is in good nick I hear .... Erm
Royal Navy to lose missiles and be left only with guns
This is just getting embarrassing. Having comprehensively decimated and defenestrated the Navy, spokesperson said:
"All Royal Navy ships carry a range of offensive and defensive weapons systems. Backed by a rising defence budget and a £178 billion equipment plan, upgrade options to all our weapons are kept under constant review.”
1. Do you think we really believe you?
2. Do you really believe yourself?
3. Are you embarrassed by what you have to do in your job?
Well, that is a great opportunity for our Nimrod sub hunters to get to work. Oooops, I forgot, we have no maritime capability in the RAF. That is difficult to understand given that we are a maritime nation.
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WTF.. Have the MOD and our Naval Leaders lost their minds? Why do we need a gap? Can't the current missiles "Soldier On" for another three years then?
What the hell is the point of having a Warship without any damn weapons! What idiot ordered them to be taken out of service before their replacements are in place?
I really despair about how our So-called "Armed Services" are run these days.
I don't suppose anyone will have the decency to resign over this though of course!
WTF.. Have the MOD and our Naval Leaders lost their minds? Why do we need a gap? Can't the current missiles "Soldier On" for another three years then?
What the hell is the point of having a Warship without any damn weapons! What idiot ordered them to be taken out of service before their replacements are in place?
I really despair about how our So-called "Armed Services" are run these days.
I don't suppose anyone will have the decency to resign over this though of course!
You do realise the decision to not replace an obsolete missile system at its planned OSD was made by the Navy and not imposed on them? If they wanted a new system they could have found the funds from their delegated budget.
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So, is there no oversight by HM Government or MOD on this Naval decision. It seems like very poor planning to me.
Hmm, let's remove an obsolete but working missile system and leave our ships vulnerable if they are called upon to go to sea in an unforeseen conflict. Not only that, but we will make an announcement to the world about how stupid we are. You might just as well leave them tied up alongside. In fact, I'm pretty sure I would not want to serve on a warship that had to venture out virtually unarmed.
It's a bit like the RAF removing the missiles from our QRA aircraft to save some money and saying "well it's still got a gun!" It is not only unwise, it's pretty damn stupid and someone with some oversight should be able to make sure it will not happen.
Hmm, let's remove an obsolete but working missile system and leave our ships vulnerable if they are called upon to go to sea in an unforeseen conflict. Not only that, but we will make an announcement to the world about how stupid we are. You might just as well leave them tied up alongside. In fact, I'm pretty sure I would not want to serve on a warship that had to venture out virtually unarmed.
It's a bit like the RAF removing the missiles from our QRA aircraft to save some money and saying "well it's still got a gun!" It is not only unwise, it's pretty damn stupid and someone with some oversight should be able to make sure it will not happen.
How is renoving an obsolete missile that as others have noted elsewhere is of exceptionally limited utility, of a type that has never once been used in anger making us more vulnerable for the jobs we have to do.
The hysteria on display is astounding.
The hysteria on display is astounding.
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How do you know what job they may have to do in the near future?
We've never had to use Polaris or Trident in the past either, but we still keep them as a deterrent. We have announced to the world, that we won't have them available for 3 years. Furthermore, 1) if they not of any use, why did we have them in the first place? 2) If they are not really required, why are we replacing them in 2020? 3) Why do other Navies have similar missiles then?
In a potential conflict, an enemy ship could fire on our ships within range of their missiles and our ships would have no means of return fire until within Gunnery range. If they lasted that long!
The naivety on display is astounding.
We've never had to use Polaris or Trident in the past either, but we still keep them as a deterrent. We have announced to the world, that we won't have them available for 3 years. Furthermore, 1) if they not of any use, why did we have them in the first place? 2) If they are not really required, why are we replacing them in 2020? 3) Why do other Navies have similar missiles then?
In a potential conflict, an enemy ship could fire on our ships within range of their missiles and our ships would have no means of return fire until within Gunnery range. If they lasted that long!
The naivety on display is astounding.
Out of trim,
What is outstanding is your over active boys own imagination. jimLad makes sound and valid points on the value and use of a modern anti ship missile system such as Harpoon. The RAF took a similar call over Sea Eagle.
To compare Harpoon to Trident is juvenile clap trap of Daiy Fail proportions.
What is outstanding is your over active boys own imagination. jimLad makes sound and valid points on the value and use of a modern anti ship missile system such as Harpoon. The RAF took a similar call over Sea Eagle.
To compare Harpoon to Trident is juvenile clap trap of Daiy Fail proportions.
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So what would YOU suggest pr00ne?
A quiet little backscuttle towards an EU Navy, and while we're at it every thing else as well?
Your type make me sick.
A quiet little backscuttle towards an EU Navy, and while we're at it every thing else as well?
Your type make me sick.
I'd most probably suggest what the RN wants, you know, the folks who actually made this decision.
Not that I am the slightest bit interested in your opinion of me, but you have not the faintest idea what "type" I am.
Not that I am the slightest bit interested in your opinion of me, but you have not the faintest idea what "type" I am.
Australia's first P8A arrived in Melbourne yesterday. Luck or forward planning?