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The Houthi’s and Hezbollah army’s are almost totally dependent on Iran supplies of arms. Iran may not issue tactical directives but is wholly involved in Strategic ones. Neither of these groups are going to piss off Iran so it would seem that the current actions have the tacit approval of Iran.
Iran is playing a dangerous game and a hit on an American warship with American casualties would be a game changer
Iran is playing a dangerous game and a hit on an American warship with American casualties would be a game changer
" it would seem that the current actions have the tacit approval of Iran."
Absolutely agree - the Iranian's, like the Chinese, are happy about anything and anyone who distracts the USA from them
But there's always a tendency by the side being distracted that it's all a finely tuned scheme when in fact it's a chaotic mob of various groups, all with their own agenda (often mutually exclusive) jostling for position.
Absolutely agree - the Iranian's, like the Chinese, are happy about anything and anyone who distracts the USA from them
But there's always a tendency by the side being distracted that it's all a finely tuned scheme when in fact it's a chaotic mob of various groups, all with their own agenda (often mutually exclusive) jostling for position.
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Interception dans la soirée de deux drones en provenance du Yémen par la FREMM Languedoc en mer Rouge.
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Fascinating thread for my English speaking colleagues not to miss. FS Languedoc shot down two drones yesterday, using two of its sixteen Aster 15 SAM. @AudrandS understands that’s about 2 million euros spent on threats probably worth less than 10% of that.
Surely that’s a better outcome than losing a warship, not to mention its crew, but that does not alter one essential fact: having to spend an eighth of your SAM (and two millions bucks!) to counter a low level threat is simply UNSUSTAINABLE for your average European naval force.
As far as the #MarineNationale is concerned, this situation is made more dire by at least three factors: limited training in the use of « complex ammo », limited number of VLS packed with SAM and complete absence of cost-effective AD solutions (CWIS, quad-packed VLS…).
Further down the line, the introduction RAPIDFire 40mm naval guns will help with *some* of those (as well as perhaps replacing some Aster 15 with cheaper, smaller Mica VL missiles) but the truth is there’s only so much you can do with 32 VLS…
And platforms kept close or under the 6,000t threshold, particularly in contested environments. Soon enough the choice will be to either avoid these areas - but then, what’s your navy for? - or risk an HMS Sheffield like tragedy.
If only Asters cost €1m each. The reality is they cost more than €3.5m
Surely that’s a better outcome than losing a warship, not to mention its crew, but that does not alter one essential fact: having to spend an eighth of your SAM (and two millions bucks!) to counter a low level threat is simply UNSUSTAINABLE for your average European naval force.
As far as the #MarineNationale is concerned, this situation is made more dire by at least three factors: limited training in the use of « complex ammo », limited number of VLS packed with SAM and complete absence of cost-effective AD solutions (CWIS, quad-packed VLS…).
Further down the line, the introduction RAPIDFire 40mm naval guns will help with *some* of those (as well as perhaps replacing some Aster 15 with cheaper, smaller Mica VL missiles) but the truth is there’s only so much you can do with 32 VLS…
And platforms kept close or under the 6,000t threshold, particularly in contested environments. Soon enough the choice will be to either avoid these areas - but then, what’s your navy for? - or risk an HMS Sheffield like tragedy.
If only Asters cost €1m each. The reality is they cost more than €3.5m
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BREAKING:
The Houthi rebels in Yemen today announced that they will start attacking all ships which are on their way to, or departing, Israeli ports.
They are trying to use the narrow Bab Al-Mandab Strait to impose a maritime blockade of Israel
The Houthi rebels in Yemen today announced that they will start attacking all ships which are on their way to, or departing, Israeli ports.
They are trying to use the narrow Bab Al-Mandab Strait to impose a maritime blockade of Israel
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French frigate shooting down drones in the Red Sea
The French frigate "Languedoc" shot down two incoming drones, which were obviosuly a threat.
They were coming from Yemen... so the Red Sea is unfortunately becoming more and more dangerous for merchant shipping, which is going to cause great concern for the world economies.
Anyway, as US NAVY does acknowledge : "... the drone shootdowns are an expensive endeavor. The video, produced by the crew of the destroyer USS Carney, shows the ship launching multiple SM-2 or Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles from its VLS cell launchers. Depending on purchase batch and missile type, these rounds are priced at about $1.0-2.1 million, about 50-100 times the price of a Shahed-136.
Well done to the "Marine Nationale", in any case.
French frigate downs drones over Red Sea: military (france24.com)
They were coming from Yemen... so the Red Sea is unfortunately becoming more and more dangerous for merchant shipping, which is going to cause great concern for the world economies.
Anyway, as US NAVY does acknowledge : "... the drone shootdowns are an expensive endeavor. The video, produced by the crew of the destroyer USS Carney, shows the ship launching multiple SM-2 or Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles from its VLS cell launchers. Depending on purchase batch and missile type, these rounds are priced at about $1.0-2.1 million, about 50-100 times the price of a Shahed-136.
Well done to the "Marine Nationale", in any case.
French frigate downs drones over Red Sea: military (france24.com)
Israel still has plenty of port access on its Med coasts.
Granted for stuff it imports from Far East etc., it will be a problem of course.
The Israelis won't accept that argument (nor should they) - that's the same as the one that kicked off the 6 day war
No doubt the munitions expended were near their end of life date anyway.
I expect once HMS Diamond reaches the Red Sea we will see the RN taking the opportunity to undertake some combat stress testing of Sea Viper.
In Other news, Iran's starting to talk a little smack ... but consider the source (J Post)
I am not seeing the logic, but then, I'm not Persian. 
The continuation of the Gaza war will lead to a regional explosion, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian told the Doha Forum on Monday, as he explained that the scope of the conflict had already expanded to include Lebanon and Yemen.
“At any moment there is a possibility of a big explosion in the region, one not controllable by any party,” he said as he spoke through an English language translator in a virtual interview conducted by CNN’s Becky Anderson. The foreign minister pointed to attacks against US bases in Iraq and Syria, Houthi attacks on ships in the Red Sea, and the violence on Israel’s northern border as proof that regional violence had expanded beyond the Gaza border.
“At least every week, we receive a message from the US telling us that US bases in Syria and Iraq are targeted by some groups,” Amirabdollahian said. These groups are “defending the Arab and Muslim people of Gaza; that is why they are targeting US bases in Syria and Iraq.”
“At any moment there is a possibility of a big explosion in the region, one not controllable by any party,” he said as he spoke through an English language translator in a virtual interview conducted by CNN’s Becky Anderson. The foreign minister pointed to attacks against US bases in Iraq and Syria, Houthi attacks on ships in the Red Sea, and the violence on Israel’s northern border as proof that regional violence had expanded beyond the Gaza border.
“At least every week, we receive a message from the US telling us that US bases in Syria and Iraq are targeted by some groups,” Amirabdollahian said. These groups are “defending the Arab and Muslim people of Gaza; that is why they are targeting US bases in Syria and Iraq.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ls-2023-12-12/
WASHINGTON, Dec 11 (Reuters) - An anti-ship cruise missile launched from Houthi-controlled Yemen struck a commercial tanker vessel, causing a fire and damage but no casualties, the U.S. military said in a statement.
The attack on the tanker STRINDA took place about 60 nautical miles (111km) north of the Bab al-Mandab Strait connecting the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden at about 2100 GMT, a U.S. official told Reuters. A second U.S. official said the STRINDA was able to move under its own power in the hours after the attack.
The attack on the tanker STRINDA took place about 60 nautical miles (111km) north of the Bab al-Mandab Strait connecting the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden at about 2100 GMT, a U.S. official told Reuters. A second U.S. official said the STRINDA was able to move under its own power in the hours after the attack.
Does much go through the Suez Canal heading to Israel?
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Reference the STRINDA:
“In a decisive blow against Israel, the Houthis struck a Norwegian-owned, Indian-crewed, tanker ship that was carrying vegetable oil from Malaysia to Italy”…
“In a decisive blow against Israel, the Houthis struck a Norwegian-owned, Indian-crewed, tanker ship that was carrying vegetable oil from Malaysia to Italy”…
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