Lost Nuke off Canada old story new discovery
Thread Starter
Lost Nuke off Canada old story new discovery
I am very surprised that the USN hasn't offered Canada to go look "for free, no charge..hey just want to help out!" "As luck would have it we can be there..tomorrow morning..very early tomorrow morning!" "Just send the co-ordinates." "We will keep you fully informed if we find anything, even if it is just a sunken buoy or an old boiler...we haven't decided which it will be. Trust us!"
UFO? Lost Cold War nuclear weapon? Canada's navy to investigate object found off B.C. coast - British Columbia - CBC News
UFO? Lost Cold War nuclear weapon? Canada's navy to investigate object found off B.C. coast - British Columbia - CBC News
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The official crew report of this B-36 accident state the bomb had a dummy lead core rather than a plutonium core. The crew also claimed they witnessed the bomb explode above the ocean surface after they released it, but before they bailed out.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090118...okenarrow3.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20090118...okenarrow3.htm
The Royal Canadian Navy ship deployed to investigate should arrive in the area in the next few weeks.
Hey....remember we are still looking for a real one off Savannah, Georgia!
We did easily find the ones we dropped near Seymour-Johnson AFB.
One out of three events resolved is not bad for Government work!
We did easily find the ones we dropped near Seymour-Johnson AFB.
One out of three events resolved is not bad for Government work!
Hey....remember we are still looking for a real one off Savannah, Georgia!
We did easily find the ones we dropped near Seymour-Johnson AFB.
One out of three events resolved is not bad for Government work!
We did easily find the ones we dropped near Seymour-Johnson AFB.
One out of three events resolved is not bad for Government work!
Number of losses publicly known about makes me wonder how many losses were covered up.
When is a nuke not a nuke? The headline says nuke, but the story says dummy with lead core. Maybe that's why nobody seems in a big hurry to recover it.
Believe it was a real bomb, but without the plutonium core inserted. The lead "dummy" core was inserted into an otherwise nuclear capable casing. The dummy core would allow close enough weight, practice loading and arming training to occur- perhaps not with that special warmth or radiactivity the real thing provided. Some early bombs had this added safety feature of having the pit or core inserted in flight to make a full up weapon. Real pits could be left at home, or in special carrying cases aboard the plane.
The bomb also detonated (non nuclear) above the surface. The crew saw the explosion/flash.
My bet is the diver found a boiler, settling tank or other similar maritime artifact.
Wouldn't the likelihood be there'd be a wreck associated with either? Not saying someone couldn't dump one, but the area is pretty remote to travel to with the intention of simply dumping it.
As for maritime wrecks they can be widely scattered or wooden vessels break apart and leave the heavy engine debris. The heavy bits can finds themselves away from other parts of the wreck, especially during a breakup in a storm or grounding. Sometimes the heavy parts break though the hull (like the boilers tumbling out of the Titanic). Not just dumping, which I agree why go to the bother. Cargo loss is another possibility, with a rail car or locomotive, or logging equipment, etc. falling off a deck barge in heavy weather
Last edited by sandiego89; 8th Nov 2016 at 12:46. Reason: updates
I would think the odds are a shipwreck would have been documented and/or somewhat visible to what sounds like an experienced diver. I've flown over the area many times to/from Alaska, it's remote and not an area a novice diver would likely find themselves.
Hopefully we'll know soon enough.
Hopefully we'll know soon enough.
Thread Starter
Lead diver: "No Bloggins I would not recommend tapping it with that hammer!" Joke
Strangely enough the political cartoon in today's Toronto Star Nov 8 (US election day) portrays a Mark 4
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...on-choice.html
Strangely enough the political cartoon in today's Toronto Star Nov 8 (US election day) portrays a Mark 4
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edit...on-choice.html
Last edited by albatross; 8th Nov 2016 at 18:08. Reason: cartoon added with the intent of humour.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
I am surprised that there have been no nukes found in UK waters. Several Blue Danube off the Isle of Man and Yellow Sun in Luce Bay, probably WE177 too. Some interesting stuff in Cardigan Bay too.
Here's an earlier one: 
The couple is still shocked after their frightening discovery
and say they will avoid diving for the rest of their trip.
“I noticed an object that looked like a metal cylinder, which I thought was an oil barrel” says Jason Sutter. “When I dug it up a bit, I noticed that it was actually a lot bigger and that there was some writing on the side. When I saw the inscription saying that it was a Mk-15 nuclear bomb, I totally freaked out. I caught Chritina (sic) by the arm and made signs to tell her we had to leave. We made an emergency ascent, went back to shore and then we called 911.”
and say they will avoid diving for the rest of their trip.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Published information on UK "Broken Arrows" and the like is mainly about fender benders on road convoys. I've never heard about a lost UK weapon, even a dummy.
On the other hand, I can tell you where to find a complete US Navy B43...
JT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Sussex
Age: 66
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Or are we talking about unrecovered exercise dummies used to check the release procedures etc?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
To both of you, the Blue Danubes were on Jurby Range. I do know they were not live but were shapes. I suspect these were ballistic stores without any electronic package. Up until the range closed it was cleared for practice bombs up to 10,000lbs. Periodically fishermen petition the MOD to clear the range as their nets snag.
At Luce Bay the weapons were Yellow Sun 2 shapes. These probably had access panels and control knobs etc but no electronics. They were dropped in trials to prove the pop up attack procedures. To say the results were interesting is an understatement. Overshoots in the region of 3,500 yards were common until some crews started using the automate ballistics.
At Luce Bay the weapons were Yellow Sun 2 shapes. These probably had access panels and control knobs etc but no electronics. They were dropped in trials to prove the pop up attack procedures. To say the results were interesting is an understatement. Overshoots in the region of 3,500 yards were common until some crews started using the automate ballistics.