More buried aircraft? This time in Turkey...
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More buried aircraft? This time in Turkey...
An article from a leading paper in Turkey
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/over-50-missing-warplanes-found-buried-in-central-turkey-report-.aspx?pageID=517&nID=104962&NewsCatID=341
50 FW190s would be quite a find...but somehow I doubt it!
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/over-50-missing-warplanes-found-buried-in-central-turkey-report-.aspx?pageID=517&nID=104962&NewsCatID=341
50 FW190s would be quite a find...but somehow I doubt it!
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Whenurhappy,
This old canard has come up before.
I think we can take that 'report' with the proverbial grain of salt.
You might like to refer to post #299 in the "Spitfires found in Burma" thread on this sub-forum in June/July of this year.
Have a look and see what you think.
This old canard has come up before.
I think we can take that 'report' with the proverbial grain of salt.
You might like to refer to post #299 in the "Spitfires found in Burma" thread on this sub-forum in June/July of this year.
Have a look and see what you think.
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Ah..
But they were "carefully wrapped" before they were buried.
If any attractive females would care to support my expedition, then my BSB number is ...
Please wait a few days 'til I'm able to get back to you.
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But they were "carefully wrapped" before they were buried.
If any attractive females would care to support my expedition, then my BSB number is ...
Please wait a few days 'til I'm able to get back to you.
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The old story of the Polish fighter pilot speaking to the girls at Roedean comes to mind, and so does https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/...rkish-service/
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“[German authorities] told me that the planes were resistant to corrosion and could fly if they are unearthed,” he said.
And the engines would start right away....
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And the engines would start right away....
But seriously, if they were properly packed and inhibited there's no reason at all that engines could not be in as-new condition.
Its a bit more of an ask to preserve an entire airframe in cosmolene.
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Ki-84 Hayate (Frank) preserved in California in 1970. As of 2014, this aircraft is displayed at a war memorial in Japan.Jack (#7),
...The old story of the Polish fighter pilot speaking to the girls at Roedean comes to mind...
FW190 looks a very potent piece of machinery. Japs had a similar thing on tne stocks at te end of the war (pic above). AFAIK, never got to Burma.
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I'm slightly surprised that Danny42C hasn't got a Fw-190 or a Ki-84 in his logbook. He surely had the time when the really nasty work was running down? 
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Jack (#7),
Not to my mind ! Gory details, please !
FW190 looks a very potent piece of machinery. Japs had a similar thing on tne stocks at te end of the war. AFAIK, never got to Burma.
Danny.
...The old story of the Polish fighter pilot speaking to the girls at Roedean comes to mind...
FW190 looks a very potent piece of machinery. Japs had a similar thing on tne stocks at te end of the war. AFAIK, never got to Burma.
Danny.
Not to my mind ! Gory details, please !
Polish air ace describes his exploits to the girls saying "Fokkers to his left and Fokkers above etc..." Headmistress interrupts with "Of course girls the Focke 190 was a type of aircraft" to which he replies "Yes that is correct but these Fokkers were Messerschmitts
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I can guarantee, that even if those FW190's were buried in cosmolene wrappings in the late 1940's, they'll be well and truly Focked by now.
Cosmolene is good for about 20 years at its very best, without being buried. I've unwrapped many a part that was over 20 yrs old, that had been factory-wrapped in cosmolene-soaked paper - and corrosion on the part was still common, even when the part had been shelf-stored.
The simple problem is that alloys are highly reactive, high-grade steels corrode overnight just with a sideways look - let alone poor storage - and burying items is a guaranteed method of ensuring destruction and decomposition within a few years.
The only component I have ever seen dug up and used again after being buried, was a set of crawler tractor tracks for an antique Caterpillar tractor.
They had been buried in relatively dry soil (in California), but they still had substantial corrosion on them - however, the sheer thickness of the metal in the tracks enabled them to be utilised again after sandblasting.
Cosmolene is good for about 20 years at its very best, without being buried. I've unwrapped many a part that was over 20 yrs old, that had been factory-wrapped in cosmolene-soaked paper - and corrosion on the part was still common, even when the part had been shelf-stored.
The simple problem is that alloys are highly reactive, high-grade steels corrode overnight just with a sideways look - let alone poor storage - and burying items is a guaranteed method of ensuring destruction and decomposition within a few years.
The only component I have ever seen dug up and used again after being buried, was a set of crawler tractor tracks for an antique Caterpillar tractor.
They had been buried in relatively dry soil (in California), but they still had substantial corrosion on them - however, the sheer thickness of the metal in the tracks enabled them to be utilised again after sandblasting.
Japs had a similar thing on tne stocks at te end of the war. AFAIK, never got to Burma
A new Plymouth Belvedere was buried in Tulsa in 1957; it was a time capsule to be recovered in fifty years. When it was dug up in 2007 it was found that the soil had leaked in and totally impregnated it. Not withstanding that it now looks like this.
1957 Plymouth Belvedere Buried For 50 Years
I don't think the 57 Plymouth that I owned in 1959 in Bulawayo will look like that.
1957 Plymouth Belvedere Buried For 50 Years
I don't think the 57 Plymouth that I owned in 1959 in Bulawayo will look like that.