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Old 20th Oct 2016, 19:02
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Pure horsecrap. You obviously do not read the American media. I am exposed to it on a daily basis. (It's awful for other reasons, but for "not criticizing candidates" you completely miss the mark).

I restate for your edification: no, the US Media is NOT an arm of the US government. (That said, it's got its share of issues that annoy the hell out of me).
During GW2 any reporter who didn't toe the line got moved on very rapidly.

US Media sold its sole to the establishment and refuse to question anybody who says the things they want to hear while demonising anybody with values they hate.

When a Government or Party of whatever political hue have co opted the media so much then it then becomes just another arm of the Government.
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Old 20th Oct 2016, 22:59
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Originally Posted by racedo
During GW2 any reporter who didn't toe the line got moved on very rapidly.

US Media sold its sole to the establishment and refuse to question anybody who says the things they want to hear while demonising anybody with values they hate.

When a Government or Party of whatever political hue have co opted the media so much then it then becomes just another arm of the Government.
And you base your statements on what??

A very good friend has a daughter who was an Associated Press reporter who was “embedded” with the US Army during the second gulf war. I have talked to her on several occasions and I can assure you that there were no “political” limitations on her reporting. In fact several AP reporters posed critical questions at the military briefings and were never limited on what they reported from the fighting they observed.
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Old 21st Oct 2016, 03:58
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Really. How Captain America indeed.
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Old 21st Oct 2016, 12:32
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Originally Posted by racedo
When a Government or Party of whatever political hue have co opted the media so much then it then becomes just another arm of the Government.
Not in the actual world. I am not sure how things work in the world that you live on. The press is adversarial, in general, although some reporters are better at cultivating sources and relationships than others. (The are all desperate to fill air time and pages in this 24/7 breathless news world.) Some government officials are better than others in their attempts to manipulate the media, but most aren't very good at it.


By the way: embedding isn't the only way to cover a war, but it's a good one. Suggest you read Bob Galloway's book. The "press conference" media who showed up every day for BGen Brooks' briefings got about what they asked for, and in one case I recall General Abizhaid getting rather hot under the collar at an Al Jazeerah reporter over something they were reporting that he found objectionable. (I'd need to see a repeat of that conference to recall the detail. Abizhaid was deputy CENTCOM at the time).

In the current world, the information stream is part of the battlefield, in depth. Been true since the Viet Nam war, is more true now that so much info transits the globe. The military is right to try and influence the media where they can: as I said, it's part of the battlefield. Welcome to 4th Generation warfare.

The fights ongoing are in a similar genre: they are not, and will never be, your grandfathers war.
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