Just out of interest..
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Just out of interest..
I was reading an article in a newspaper today regarding the naming of new cars...i.e..what will apeal to the general public and make them want to own one. I got to thinking about how new aircraft or military eqpt are/is named and who decides etc..What will happen when we run out of birds of prey to name our new aircraft after..Can anyone think of any good names they would use????
ps..Just caught sight of Sophie Ellis Bextor on telly...god shes ugly!
ps..Just caught sight of Sophie Ellis Bextor on telly...god shes ugly!
The US name their helicopters after Red Indian Tribes (you know, the people they subjugated for years and now try to appease their guilt by claiming their heritage as their own). The one exception is the Cobra that was named by the manufacturer before the Military had a chance. Can't see the rationale behind the French naming their helicopters Squirrel and Gazelle, neither creature known for anything special. Then again, nor are the French.
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Can't help but be picky...........don't ever recall reading about the cowboys fighting the 'Sea Stallion' tribe nor John Wayne fighting to the death with the evil 'Hughs Defender' Chiefs.
Perhaps a bit before my time.
Perhaps a bit before my time.
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Don't think the Sea Knights & skycranes put up much of a fight either.
Ok Ok I know Im a Prick!
OOOPS skycrane could be called a Tarhe? Correct myself before someone else does and gives me a slating
Ok Ok I know Im a Prick!
OOOPS skycrane could be called a Tarhe? Correct myself before someone else does and gives me a slating
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*Lone Ranger* Good God Tonto, what tribe is that on the next hill?
*Tonto* It is the fearsome "Huey" tribe!
*Lone Ranger* Geez, when the were handing out tribe names, these guys must've been out taking a pess.......
(I know I know, Iroquois!)
*Tonto* It is the fearsome "Huey" tribe!
*Lone Ranger* Geez, when the were handing out tribe names, these guys must've been out taking a pess.......
(I know I know, Iroquois!)
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Now then chaps, there must be lots of inspiring and dangerous things we can name planes after.
Weather phenomena? Typhoon, Tornado, Hurricane all done - what about El Nino? La Nina? Occluded Front?
Hmm...dangerous people, maybe "Ninja" or "Assassin"...or even "Football Hooligan", "Thug", or perhaps "A s s h o l e". Think about that one, eh, the new Lockheed Martin 'A s s h o l e' Strike Fighter...a perfect complement to the Eurocopter 'Complete Bast@rd' Helicopter Gunship.
For those stealthy aircraft (and other sneaky systems, like submarines) we could have names like "Colesterol", "Prostate Cancer" or "Male Pattern Baldness"; or lots of other nasty things that creep up and bite one in the ar$e.
Yessiree Bob, the next generation of fiendish weapons to strike fear into the hearts of the Wests' enemies will have names like "Globalwarming", "Ozonedegradation", and "Klezwormvirus".
Wingman: "Red Leader! Bandits at four o'clock!"
Squadron Leader: (choke) "My God! A s s h o l e s!"
Wingman: (grimly) "Yes sir. Mark twos."
Squadron Leader: "And they're carrying wingtip-mount MotherInLaws...."
Weather phenomena? Typhoon, Tornado, Hurricane all done - what about El Nino? La Nina? Occluded Front?
Hmm...dangerous people, maybe "Ninja" or "Assassin"...or even "Football Hooligan", "Thug", or perhaps "A s s h o l e". Think about that one, eh, the new Lockheed Martin 'A s s h o l e' Strike Fighter...a perfect complement to the Eurocopter 'Complete Bast@rd' Helicopter Gunship.
For those stealthy aircraft (and other sneaky systems, like submarines) we could have names like "Colesterol", "Prostate Cancer" or "Male Pattern Baldness"; or lots of other nasty things that creep up and bite one in the ar$e.
Yessiree Bob, the next generation of fiendish weapons to strike fear into the hearts of the Wests' enemies will have names like "Globalwarming", "Ozonedegradation", and "Klezwormvirus".
Wingman: "Red Leader! Bandits at four o'clock!"
Squadron Leader: (choke) "My God! A s s h o l e s!"
Wingman: (grimly) "Yes sir. Mark twos."
Squadron Leader: "And they're carrying wingtip-mount MotherInLaws...."
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You have heard about the new AAC operated WAH64 "Impotence " then? It strikes fear in the hearts of men and can only be flown aby split-arses.
Oh, and BTW BlueWolf, Sophie E-B is a babe and can have my children any day!
Oh, and BTW BlueWolf, Sophie E-B is a babe and can have my children any day!
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aircraft names
as far as im aware british military aircraft names are what manufacturers call them. to be pedantic the raf only had 1 sqn of f4s(74) rest were phantoms, is the army calling it apache or ah64?
and will people call it typhoon or eurofighter? we dont call tornados panavia or jaguars sepecat so i think weve got to start calling it typhoon, if anyones looked at it lately the name on the side is eurofighter in small letters and typhoon in large letters. personally as the germans hate the name typhoon i think we should call it typhoon every time!!!!!!!!!!!
and will people call it typhoon or eurofighter? we dont call tornados panavia or jaguars sepecat so i think weve got to start calling it typhoon, if anyones looked at it lately the name on the side is eurofighter in small letters and typhoon in large letters. personally as the germans hate the name typhoon i think we should call it typhoon every time!!!!!!!!!!!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Phantom FG Mk 1 = F-4K.
Phantom FGR Mk 2 = F-4M.
74 Sqn = F-4J(UK).
Numerous components were built in the UK, including rear fuselage sections, fins, rudders, tailcones, stabilators, wing leading edges, brakes, INS, radar (Ferranti) etc - but all aircraft were built by MD in St Louis, who called them F-4s.
Phantom FGR Mk 2 = F-4M.
74 Sqn = F-4J(UK).
Numerous components were built in the UK, including rear fuselage sections, fins, rudders, tailcones, stabilators, wing leading edges, brakes, INS, radar (Ferranti) etc - but all aircraft were built by MD in St Louis, who called them F-4s.
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How about these slightly more cynical names:-
The Compromise.
The We didn't want it but the government did, so now we're buying what we did want but years late.
The Delivered direct to storage cos we can't get anyone to fly them (or afford it).
The Gotta gettem flying but can't use them cos there's no radar in.
The No you can't buy C17s even though they're exactly what we need cos the'y're American and what would airbus do?
There are loads more I could think of but I don't want you to get bored.
Seriously though, why has no one resurrected the best of them all, the Spitfire? Perhaps because theres nothing as good come along yet?
Sam
The Compromise.
The We didn't want it but the government did, so now we're buying what we did want but years late.
The Delivered direct to storage cos we can't get anyone to fly them (or afford it).
The Gotta gettem flying but can't use them cos there's no radar in.
The No you can't buy C17s even though they're exactly what we need cos the'y're American and what would airbus do?
There are loads more I could think of but I don't want you to get bored.
Seriously though, why has no one resurrected the best of them all, the Spitfire? Perhaps because theres nothing as good come along yet?
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I remeber a Newnight interview between Paxman, and a retired former CAS , at the height of the "Wot the bleddy hell are we going to call it?" EuroFrightener fiasco
There was a learned discourse from the CAS with intelligent observation and questioning by the boy Paxman, which ended with the CAS exclaiming in exasperation........
"Frankly we should just call it Spitfire II and have done with it"
Probably sold a damn sight more as well
There was a learned discourse from the CAS with intelligent observation and questioning by the boy Paxman, which ended with the CAS exclaiming in exasperation........
"Frankly we should just call it Spitfire II and have done with it"
Probably sold a damn sight more as well
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The "Dyson Triple Cyclone" search radar.......picks up everything.
(Oh and kbf1 I agree. S-E-B is 100% babe, giving Kylie a run for her money in the babe stakes. I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to poke a matchstick in Sophie's poo.)
(Oh and kbf1 I agree. S-E-B is 100% babe, giving Kylie a run for her money in the babe stakes. I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to poke a matchstick in Sophie's poo.)
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BlueWolf, enuff of the hillarity!
The winter woes are obviously upon you.
Back on-track again, and why perpetuate the name of a previous lame duck, as Typhoon 1 was not a success as a fighter aircraft, and found its niche in life as a fighter bomber, and only then because of a huge amount of grunt from its Napier Sabre engine.
A complete re-design produced the Tempest, but which was almost too late for war service.
The winter woes are obviously upon you.
Back on-track again, and why perpetuate the name of a previous lame duck, as Typhoon 1 was not a success as a fighter aircraft, and found its niche in life as a fighter bomber, and only then because of a huge amount of grunt from its Napier Sabre engine.
A complete re-design produced the Tempest, but which was almost too late for war service.
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But you would not believe the names that are REALLY considered. I heard from a guy who was in the MoD when the RAF EH-101 (EHI-01?) was to be named, even though the RN had already decided on Merlin.
The categories considered by the Airships were:
a. Names from mythology.
b. Names of winds.
c. Previous Westland Aircraft
d. Beginning with W for alliteration - also like Wasp/Whirlwind/Wessex.
The names ACTUALLY on the table were:
Excalibur, Cyclone, Gryphon (this was before Bell 412 Griffin), Lysander, Valkyrie, Westminster, Wyvern and (I'm not making this up) Zephyr!
The inclusion of the last makes me wonder about the registering of names as trademarks, and if this is ever a factor. The Bristol Car Company "owns" the old Bristol aircraft names, and have produced four-wheeled Britannias, Brigands and Beaufighters. So perhaps "Spitfire" now belongs to Triumph (whoever they belong to now).
[As an after thought on Triumphs, without stretching translation too far, "Triumph Acclaim" can be rendered in German as "Sieg Heil"!!!]
The categories considered by the Airships were:
a. Names from mythology.
b. Names of winds.
c. Previous Westland Aircraft
d. Beginning with W for alliteration - also like Wasp/Whirlwind/Wessex.
The names ACTUALLY on the table were:
Excalibur, Cyclone, Gryphon (this was before Bell 412 Griffin), Lysander, Valkyrie, Westminster, Wyvern and (I'm not making this up) Zephyr!
The inclusion of the last makes me wonder about the registering of names as trademarks, and if this is ever a factor. The Bristol Car Company "owns" the old Bristol aircraft names, and have produced four-wheeled Britannias, Brigands and Beaufighters. So perhaps "Spitfire" now belongs to Triumph (whoever they belong to now).
[As an after thought on Triumphs, without stretching translation too far, "Triumph Acclaim" can be rendered in German as "Sieg Heil"!!!]
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Since we're not building many ships any more, why not take over the RN "Weapon Class" Destroyer names (e.g. Battleaxe & Broadsword)
"The British Broadsword" has a certain ring to it.
"The British Broadsword" has a certain ring to it.
EF2000 Bureaufighter was named 'Typhoon' after a meeting between 'them-who-Brazil-beat' and others some years ago..........
UK: "We need a name for this new jet. We don't think that Spitfire II would be terribly suitable, so we suggest following on the 'wind' tradition started by Tornado. How about 'Tempest'?"
t-w-B-b: "Nein. We are with this not happy being. Verdammte Englanders did my father in his Me-262 mit ein Hawker Tempest shoot down. Ve suggest Sturm!"
UK: "No, sorry old chap. Too many memories of Storm Troopers goose-stepping across Europe..... We'd prefer 'Hurricane'"
t-w-B-b: "Nein. This is not possible."
UK: "OK - something else then. How about 'Typhoon'.....?"
t-w-B-b: "Nein! You had those in the Second Weltkrieg. Ve do NOT vant unser aircraft so named being....
UK: "Ah - but you had a 'Typhoon' or rather 'Taifun' as well. Me 108 Taifun, if you recall....!"
t-w-B-b: "Himmel! Sie haben recht. Ve did indeed. Perhaps ve can consider this?"
UK: "OK - perhaps. Or what about 'Cyclone'? No-one had any aeroplane called 'Cyclone'?"
t-w-B-b: "Hmm. Sehr interesting. Zis ist perhaps OK. Ja - ve are liking 'Cyclone', oder, wie sagt man auf Deutsch 'Zyklon'. Ve can fur das singleseaterflugzeug 'Zyklon A' have, und fur das doppelseaterjagdbomberflugzeug, vielleicht 'Zyklon B'......"
UK: "Ahhh - we don't think that would be a terribly good name. We want to sell our jet overseas. We don't think that 'Zyklon B' would go down terribly well with some of our potential customers. Such as Israel....."
t-w-B-b: "Ach so. Perhaps then ve should decide on 'Taifun'!"
UK: "Yes. Typhoon it is then. Spot of lunch, old chap?"
t-w-B-b: "Danke"
UK: "We need a name for this new jet. We don't think that Spitfire II would be terribly suitable, so we suggest following on the 'wind' tradition started by Tornado. How about 'Tempest'?"
t-w-B-b: "Nein. We are with this not happy being. Verdammte Englanders did my father in his Me-262 mit ein Hawker Tempest shoot down. Ve suggest Sturm!"
UK: "No, sorry old chap. Too many memories of Storm Troopers goose-stepping across Europe..... We'd prefer 'Hurricane'"
t-w-B-b: "Nein. This is not possible."
UK: "OK - something else then. How about 'Typhoon'.....?"
t-w-B-b: "Nein! You had those in the Second Weltkrieg. Ve do NOT vant unser aircraft so named being....
UK: "Ah - but you had a 'Typhoon' or rather 'Taifun' as well. Me 108 Taifun, if you recall....!"
t-w-B-b: "Himmel! Sie haben recht. Ve did indeed. Perhaps ve can consider this?"
UK: "OK - perhaps. Or what about 'Cyclone'? No-one had any aeroplane called 'Cyclone'?"
t-w-B-b: "Hmm. Sehr interesting. Zis ist perhaps OK. Ja - ve are liking 'Cyclone', oder, wie sagt man auf Deutsch 'Zyklon'. Ve can fur das singleseaterflugzeug 'Zyklon A' have, und fur das doppelseaterjagdbomberflugzeug, vielleicht 'Zyklon B'......"
UK: "Ahhh - we don't think that would be a terribly good name. We want to sell our jet overseas. We don't think that 'Zyklon B' would go down terribly well with some of our potential customers. Such as Israel....."
t-w-B-b: "Ach so. Perhaps then ve should decide on 'Taifun'!"
UK: "Yes. Typhoon it is then. Spot of lunch, old chap?"
t-w-B-b: "Danke"
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