View Poll Results: AIR6000 - what's your choice?
F15E Strike Eagle
40
18.69%
F35 JSF
57
26.64%
F22 Raptor
40
18.69%
F18 E/F Super Hornet
23
10.75%
Typhoon / Rafale / F16 / other...
54
25.23%
Voters: 214. This poll is closed
$300 million on JSF... are they MAD ?!?
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With regard to RTS - QinetiQ does not impose, advice is provided to the Platform IPT. Moreover, it has never been different, when Boscombe was A&AEE they recommended to ACAS - he did not have to accept what was said!
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The problem with siging up as a partner years ahead of production is things like this happen (see below) production moves to the right...costs skyrocket and capabilties suffer in the meantime.
US media yesterday... paraphrased ..
US to scale back on future fighters
A Pentagon decision ......change in strategic priorities. Rumsfeld trying to transform the military to deal with unconventional threats....
"What does Al Qaeda's air force look like?" said one defense official working on the Pentagon's assessment, known as the Quadrennial Defense Review.
......some inside the Defense Department say that the deepest cuts could come in the Joint Strike Fighter program.....the Pentagon could cut the Air Force's allotment of the planes by half.
Officials involved in the review process say that the option of canceling one or both of the programs is on the table.....
...... Pentagon officials hoped to make some decisions about weapons programs by September or October, as the Defense Department prepared its fiscal year 2007 budget.
The Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 have been plagued by cost overruns and production delays. ..... the Government Accountability Office called the JSF's original business case, laid out by the Pentagon in 1996, "unexecutable."
"When you have difficult budget choices to make, several of the Pentagon's expensive modernization programs become likely targets," said Andrew Krepinevich of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington.
"The JSF sits at the top of that list."
Food for thought on A6000
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US media yesterday... paraphrased ..
US to scale back on future fighters
A Pentagon decision ......change in strategic priorities. Rumsfeld trying to transform the military to deal with unconventional threats....
"What does Al Qaeda's air force look like?" said one defense official working on the Pentagon's assessment, known as the Quadrennial Defense Review.
......some inside the Defense Department say that the deepest cuts could come in the Joint Strike Fighter program.....the Pentagon could cut the Air Force's allotment of the planes by half.
Officials involved in the review process say that the option of canceling one or both of the programs is on the table.....
...... Pentagon officials hoped to make some decisions about weapons programs by September or October, as the Defense Department prepared its fiscal year 2007 budget.
The Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 have been plagued by cost overruns and production delays. ..... the Government Accountability Office called the JSF's original business case, laid out by the Pentagon in 1996, "unexecutable."
"When you have difficult budget choices to make, several of the Pentagon's expensive modernization programs become likely targets," said Andrew Krepinevich of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington.
"The JSF sits at the top of that list."
Food for thought on A6000
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IIRC A book writen 25 years ago by Norm Augustine (CEO of Lockheed Martin) "Augustine's Laws" had an analysis of the unit cost of fighter aircraft and if the unit cost on U.S. fighter aircraft were plotted from the early 1950's by about 2040 or so the entire U.S. defense budget would be needed to buy one aircraft. "Just buy one aeroplane and let the aviators take turns flying it"
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Well that's OK then - for if it sat above the curve then there'd be a real concern. I could raise you and show another curve, using 05 Typhoon unit cost, that breaks the Augustine 'rule'; and if we plotted out LCCs, the likes of Typhoon, Grippen and Rafale would similarly break the trend.
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