Falklands now without naval cover for the first time since the Falklands War
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Falklands now without naval cover for the first time since the Falklands War
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Somebody had better tell the crew of HMS Clyde that they somehow have got lost and left the South Atlantic!
HMS Clyde (P257) | Royal Navy
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Apart from the permanently based HMS Clyde, a British warship..,
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But surely all Clyde can do if she sees a submarine or surface warship is run like hell because she carries no torpedoes, if she sees an aircraft all she can do is squawk because she carries no anti-aircraft missiles.
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Whilst it may be fair to say that the terminology used to describe HMS Clyde is technically correct (i.e. 'warship'), it might also be fair to say that a Type 45 destroyer, or similar, has a somewhat more intimidating presence...
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But surely all Clyde can do if she sees a submarine or surface warship is run like hell because she carries no torpedoes, if she sees an aircraft all she can do is squawk because she carries no anti-aircraft missiles.
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The Trinidad has been raised and read somewhere she is to be restored as a museum
Falklands' war "ARA Santisima Trinidad" refloated in Puerto Belgrano ? MercoPress
Mind you it isn't looking well in dry dock
http://www.defensa.com/frontend/defe...vn17491-vst330
Falklands' war "ARA Santisima Trinidad" refloated in Puerto Belgrano ? MercoPress
Mind you it isn't looking well in dry dock
http://www.defensa.com/frontend/defe...vn17491-vst330
A frigate or destroyer is only in Falklands waters for a few weeks of each South Atlantic deployment, and that has been the situation for many years now. So the suggestion that there is no frigate or destroyer there "for the first time" is complete bolleaux. As has been noted, HMS Clyde is the only permanent warship presence and that too has been the situation for many years.
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Or do you mean that the Typhoons sometimes leave the ground and go see some Argentine aircraft with no expectation of shooting anybody down.?
Bit like when the warships sometimes leave port and sail around a bit down the South Atlantic.
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They'll never attack again. Their countries a far bigger basket case than ours. We still have a few submarines, some TLAM, Typhoon.... eventually some HM surface ships would re-join and tip the balance . We Just need to pay people substantially more to keep skilled people in..or think of other special arrangements to manage the manning. Argentina have plenty of loud talk but little else...and who talks for them anyway?
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I have to say, the HMS Clyde Patrol Vessel is rather short on credible arms. Not really a Warship I would say.
OK against fishing vessels but, not much else! We never seem to have quite enough weapons capability on any of our ships. Bang for buck seems very uninspiring to say the least. Why is that?
OK against fishing vessels but, not much else! We never seem to have quite enough weapons capability on any of our ships. Bang for buck seems very uninspiring to say the least. Why is that?
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It's because while it is easy to look at little gunboats covered in missiles and think they are great, it's a little trickier to field credible blue water ships that can go anywhere at any time and fight any threat. Because they are bigger, they seem less gunned up.
Their actual capabilities are in an entirely different league.
Our type 22s were world class, particularly the batch 2 and 3
The 45 is great.
23s meh...
It's because while it is easy to look at little gunboats covered in missiles and think they are great, it's a little trickier to field credible blue water ships that can go anywhere at any time and fight any threat. Because they are bigger, they seem less gunned up.
Their actual capabilities are in an entirely different league.
Our type 22s were world class, particularly the batch 2 and 3
The 45 is great.
23s meh...
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