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Not all sweetness and light in USAF

Old 7th Dec 2015, 21:10
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Lonewolf50 posted: Dear RAF friends: on the bright side, with a smaller force you can be pickier in the quality of your recruits. (Silver linings to every cloud, yes?)
Certainly looked like it on the first Hawk T2 course in 2013 - 4 students graduated - outnumbered by staff and VSOs in the photo !



By comparison of scale, here's a video for a typical ENJJPT course in the USA - 19 USAF/USANG/USAFR graduates and 2 back coursed - note that one graduate went straight to F-22 school. There were at least 8 courses at ENJJPT alone in FY15 plus those at other locations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Yk-hz6QdA
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Old 7th Dec 2015, 22:05
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They certainly do not promote based upon Looks do they?
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Old 8th Dec 2015, 12:06
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They've got a good band though.

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Old 8th Dec 2015, 16:46
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In the Valley photo, who/what was the guy in the suit?
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Old 8th Dec 2015, 16:59
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Wander,

He was the "Station Manager, Ascent Flight Training, RAF Valley". See 2:37 in this video explaining the new Hawk T2 based training system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtf9tT2nM3I

He is now the Operations Director at Ascent: http://www.ascentflighttraining.net/...asdair_shinner

and the Valley post was advertised last year: http://www.ex-militarycareers.com/jo...ley-316945.htm .
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Old 8th Dec 2015, 17:00
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Wander00 asked:
In the Valley photo, who/what was the guy in the suit?
See the Ascent website: Alasdair Shinner | Ascent Flight Training
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They've got a good band though.

They certainly have, perhaps not too surprisingly since every one seems to be a sergeant of some sort, except the full Colonel of course.

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Thanks Beags, just interested




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Old 8th Dec 2015, 18:50
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
They've got a good band though.

They certainly have, perhaps not too surprisingly since every one seems to be a sergeant of some sort, except the full Colonel of course.

Jack
Yes - they pay to keep the talent.
AUDITIONS AND USAF BAND CAREER INFORMATION

How much is the salary and other allowances?
Basic Pay: After you complete basic training and arrive at The United States Air Force Band, you are awarded the rank of Technical Sergeant (E-6 pay grade) and will earn $2380.80 per month in basic military pay. Your pay will increase with tenure and promotions, and you will receive annual pay raises to reflect the increase in cost-of-living.

In addition to basic pay, the Air Force offers non-taxable housing and food allowances to help cover your living expenses.

Housing Allowance: For members living off base, an allowance (known as "Basic Allowance for Housing") is provided to defray the cost of housing in the Washington, D.C. area. This allowance is based on your rank and on whether or not you are providing support for dependents, such as children living with you or a spouse. For members assigned to Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling, BAH rates for E-6 (TSgt) with dependents is $2,439.00/month or without dependents $1,914.00/month, provided as non-taxable income. Although most members of The Air Force Band live off base, a limited supply of on-base housing is available. (Availability varies, and in most cases, you must sign up on a waiting list for housing.) For on-base residents, housing expenses, including rent, utility bills and maintenance are paid in full in lieu of the housing allowance.

Food Allowance: The Air Force provides a food allowance (known as "Basic Allowance for Subsistence") of up to $357.55 per month.

Total Pay: With basic pay and the housing and food allowance, a Technical Sergeant with dependents, living off-base, will earn $62,128.20 annually, of which $33,558.60 is tax-free. A Technical Sergeant without dependents, living off base, will earn $55,828.20 annually, of which $27,258.60 is tax-free.

Uniform Allowance: You receive an annual tax-free clothing allowance to replace uniform items.
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Thank you, Bevo - much appreciated.

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Old 8th Dec 2015, 22:24
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Googled it...

I read somewhere that circa 1912 the USN put one more hull in the water and the US Secretary of the Navy (or similar) immediately sent the First Sea Lord a telegram asking "How this the second biggest navy doing..." but a Google search found this:

Bibliographic information

Title From the Sublime to the Ridiculous
Author Brian(bill) Haley Bem
Publisher Trafford Publishing, 2011
ISBN 1426995768, 9781426995767
Length 272 pages

From page 102:

'I vividly remember being questioned by an American sailor, who asked "How is the second biggest navy in the World" my instance reply was "Not too bad, how is the second best" Which provoked an argument that should not have occurred. '

The Royal Navy was either the biggest and / or best for something like 400 years and probably why we speak English and why all modern navies, including the USN, are modeled on it. The USN is now the biggest and, if your metric for 'best' is naval power, then undoubtedly the USN is the best. Doubt it will be for 400 years though
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That grad photo irritated the **** out of me at the time.

The most important people at any graduation are the students, so why the hell are they they hidden at the back behind what looks like an excessive amount of brass?
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Old 9th Dec 2015, 01:10
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How long must one spend in the military to receive a pension? The bio for Mr Shinner indicates he spent 18 in the RAF?

Short of an early buymout offer or a medical issue, is 18 years service enough to get a monthly check?
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Yes, as an officer on that particular pension scheme he would need 16 years of service after age 21 to be awarded an immediate non-indexed linked monthly pension. Later schemes moved this to 18 then 20 years, albeit without the age 21 limitation.
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Originally Posted by Just This Once...
Yes, as an officer on that particular pension scheme he would need 16 years of service after age 21 to be awarded an immediate non-indexed linked monthly pension. Later schemes moved this to 18 then 20 years, albeit without the age 21 limitation.
Understood, thank you.
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