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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 18:40
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Typhoon & Brimstone

Is Brimstone fitted on Typhoon ?
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Covered in depth here:

Typhoon?
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Could someone remind me how much a single UK Hellfire, er sorry Brimstone missile costs.....circa £200K?

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At least two more years, probably three, before Typhoon gets Brimstone, but Tornado carries the capability until then (lucky it was extended).

Dual mode Brimstone replacement round costs £106,000.

Similarity to Hellfire, just the appearance, RTL, despite its origins.
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Brimstone - December 2018
Storm Shadow - August 2018

Maria Eagle

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, by when he plans for Stormshadow and Brimstone missile systems to be integrated with Typhoon aircraft.

Mr Philip Dunne

The Strategic Defence and Security Review included a commitment to invest further in Typhoon’s capabilities, including ground attack. Under current plans, the in-service dates on Typhoon will be August 2018 for Storm Shadow and December 2018 for Brimstone.
17865 - Guided Weapons: European Fighter Aircraft (Answered) - Think Defence

See image of Typhoon during trial installation with Brimstone at following link.

https://www.eurofighter.com/multimed...way-ivjpg-1747

https://www.eurofighter.com/news-and...the-first-time
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'bout three years then. I wonder if they might get a UOR.
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Oooh, I would think it's pretty close to the top of Santa's list.
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Ah - Eurofighter 2000! So only 18 years late.
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Why do people always boil it down to what a weapon costs....
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The desire is for a new store carrier that can carry both PWIV and Brimstone (up to 2 PWIV per carrier or up to 3 Brimstones).

Together with current clearances this will give Typhoon the ability to carry of mixed load of small, medium and large warhead weapons to match against the target, whilst retaining AIM-132 & AIM-120 / Meteor missiles.
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Because, in case you had not noticed we are in cash-constrained times.

Would it help to put it in other terms? Each time a Brimstone is fired, that's three primary school teacher salaries up in smoke (as well as , one hopes a few men waving black flags).
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Originally Posted by Background Noise
Ah - Eurofighter 2000! So only 18 years late.
Eurofighter, not, Eurofighter/bomber, so not really '18 years late'... Although admittedly the 'fighter' bit was actually late!

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Originally Posted by Just This Once...
The desire is for a new store carrier that can carry both PWIV and Brimstone (up to 2 PWIV per carrier or up to 3 Brimstones).
A bit of info on the, Common Weapon Launcher BAES are working on, that JTO mentions...

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...yphoon-412903/

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cash-constrained times
So lets use dumb ordnance and miss the target. How much does that cost? Such beancounting is the bane our lives. If we have to release any ordnance make it the most effective type.

Tabloid Units of measurement:
Length = football pitches
Height = Double Decker buses (UK) Elephants (elsewhere)
Cost of warfare = Schoolteachers or Nurses

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So lets use dumb ordnance and miss the target. How much does that cost? Such beancounting is the bane our lives. If we have to release any ordnance make it the most effective type.
I don't disagree that tabloid accounting is stupid, however beancounting is important in war.

Scenario 1

Typhoon launches £1m missile that shoots down £50m jet.

Win. The enemy goes bust before you do.

Scenario 2

Typhoon launches £200k missile at infinitely replaceable scrote in stolen landcruiser.

Lose. You go bust before enemy runs out of scrotes or landcruisers.


Arms company very happy though.....
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This is not a cheap conflict if the MOD release of ops on 30 Nov is anything to go by:

"UK GR4s were once again in action, supporting the Kurdish peshmerga south of Sinjar. Three heavy machine-gun positions were identified, and each struck accurately by a Paveway IV."

So that's £30k to knock out each machine gun position!
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So that's £30k to knock out each machine gun position!
That's only slightly more expensive than dropping a band 5 Nurse on them, but considerably more effective.
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