"Join the Navy - not if I can't log on to Facebook"!
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"Join the Navy - not if I can't log on to Facebook"!
I first read about this in a reasonably respectable newspaper. This was the first internet link on the subject that I found:
Youngsters don't want to serve on Royal Navy submarines because they can't log on to Facebook while under the waves | InterPressPage
Youngsters don't want to serve on Royal Navy submarines because they can't log on to Facebook while under the waves | InterPressPage
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Here's the link without the clickthru ad revenue generator.
Youngsters won't join Royal Navy because they can't go on Facebook | Daily Mail Online
Youngsters won't join Royal Navy because they can't go on Facebook | Daily Mail Online
The Royal Navy seem to have gone soft. I say, bring back the rum ration, keel hauling & the lash (Well, maybe not the lash, some pay good money for that) - Flight Idle
It seems more likely that it's not so much the Navy, but the youth of today who have gone soft, with the inevitable knock on effect. Nevertheless, Flight Idle's solution might boost recruiting - with flogging optional of course....
Curiously enough, I recall that, umpteen years ago, when I was standing my first ever watch as Officer of the Watch, a furious leading hand appeared on the bridge with four junior sailors in tow whom he wished to be charged with gambling, since he had found them playing cribbage for pennies.
In his own words, "When I joined the Navy, Sir, it was rum, bum and baccy, now it's Schweppes, self abuse, and Silk Cut, but gambling I cannot stand"!
Actually I'm not too sure that I want FB deprived youngsters with their fingers on the nuclear trigger. - Bollotom
Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do.
Jack
It seems more likely that it's not so much the Navy, but the youth of today who have gone soft, with the inevitable knock on effect. Nevertheless, Flight Idle's solution might boost recruiting - with flogging optional of course....
Curiously enough, I recall that, umpteen years ago, when I was standing my first ever watch as Officer of the Watch, a furious leading hand appeared on the bridge with four junior sailors in tow whom he wished to be charged with gambling, since he had found them playing cribbage for pennies.
In his own words, "When I joined the Navy, Sir, it was rum, bum and baccy, now it's Schweppes, self abuse, and Silk Cut, but gambling I cannot stand"!
Actually I'm not too sure that I want FB deprived youngsters with their fingers on the nuclear trigger. - Bollotom
Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do.
Jack
This is market research- that's how it works. I see no need for surprise or outrage. I joined the air force- join the navy, not in a million!
There was no Facebook then, but there were creature comforts you don't get on HM's war canoes- why join other than for a real vocation?
CG
There was no Facebook then, but there were creature comforts you don't get on HM's war canoes- why join other than for a real vocation?
CG
Nobody in the forces should have a "smartphone" anyhow, IMO.
They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.
They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.
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Nobody in the forces should have a "smartphone" anyhow, IMO.
They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.
They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.
IOS users have the same problem, except all their data is kept on a file on the phone....
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Absolutely right about smartphone use. An independent group was able to plot in detail the movements of the missile unit suspected of shooting down the Malaysian 777 largely through social media posts.
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Much as I could do without FB, it behoves the military to keep up, not attempt to turn back society's clock. Waste of time putting fingers in dykes.
Memories of RAFP disabling the Wi-Fi at Waddington's Hive come to mind, despite the vast majority of nearby MQs having it.
Memories of RAFP disabling the Wi-Fi at Waddington's Hive come to mind, despite the vast majority of nearby MQs having it.
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My earlier post was in fact a little tongue in cheek (To a certain extent)
Times change, book learning, seemingly a thing of the past, with 'Google' at one's fingertips, giving 'Instant facts' for people to chew on.
Food for thought about how they managed in the Nelson days of sail, maybe months to get a message around the world, with all the faffing about at the time. Then radio with Morse code, all those dits & dars.
Then computer time, at first a thing for specialists, then gradually creeping into the wider world. School sprogs in America, with a computer terminal, waiting patiently for their own terminal to come online for an hour, to they could experiment with their own self taught program for 'Noughts & crosses (Tick tak toe) for the Americans.
Now, we have reached the stage where the utterly brainless are adept at using computers, thanks to the 'Plug & play' & all coding done for them.
So, the young never look in wonder at 'Colour television' any longer, times change.
In my opinion, the service person of today, is still made of the same stuff, just different times.
Times change, book learning, seemingly a thing of the past, with 'Google' at one's fingertips, giving 'Instant facts' for people to chew on.
Food for thought about how they managed in the Nelson days of sail, maybe months to get a message around the world, with all the faffing about at the time. Then radio with Morse code, all those dits & dars.
Then computer time, at first a thing for specialists, then gradually creeping into the wider world. School sprogs in America, with a computer terminal, waiting patiently for their own terminal to come online for an hour, to they could experiment with their own self taught program for 'Noughts & crosses (Tick tak toe) for the Americans.
Now, we have reached the stage where the utterly brainless are adept at using computers, thanks to the 'Plug & play' & all coding done for them.
So, the young never look in wonder at 'Colour television' any longer, times change.
In my opinion, the service person of today, is still made of the same stuff, just different times.
Originally Posted by Stanwell
I was recently told by a brat with attitude..
"Things have changed now. - Get used to it".
"Things have changed now. - Get used to it".
That wid hiv pit his gas in a peep - as we used to say in Greenock
Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do....
....in the command qualified context, which is what I'm confident Bollotom was talking about, and of course the WEO does too in a different context.
Jack
....in the command qualified context, which is what I'm confident Bollotom was talking about, and of course the WEO does too in a different context.
Jack