ISIL attack Egypt.
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ISIL attack Egypt.
ISIS carry out rocket strike on Egyptian navy patrol boat in the Mediterranean | Daily Mail Online
Time for Middle East nations to take on the fight?
Time for Middle East nations to take on the fight?
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Not strictly aviation related. Our own military aviation is limited and operating from Cyprus, am I right?
But an act of military violence? Next target civilian cruise ships transiting Suez? (If they still use it that is). Or elsewhere?
Are ISIL leaving all the military behind>? Beating the military? They are playing a long game, ultimately successful one?
Cant believe a hit like that didn't cause loss of life for the crew. Is it an anti tank missile?
Actually to answer the original question, are not most Middle eastern nations up to their necks in violence at the moment? Seems so.
But an act of military violence? Next target civilian cruise ships transiting Suez? (If they still use it that is). Or elsewhere?
Are ISIL leaving all the military behind>? Beating the military? They are playing a long game, ultimately successful one?
Cant believe a hit like that didn't cause loss of life for the crew. Is it an anti tank missile?
Actually to answer the original question, are not most Middle eastern nations up to their necks in violence at the moment? Seems so.
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HS, lots of cruise ships use the canal on their world cruise segments. Itineraries are published two years in advance and in national press months ahead.
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Originally Posted by beardy
Aviation related?
Egypt will now have to work out what action to take and other Middle East nations will have to do the same - either before or after they are targeted by ISIL.
Maybe you would prefer that I wait until one of those nations actually launches an aircraft before posting news such as this?
Happy to discuss.
ISIL attack Egypt.
As an aside, the forum description says nothing about what we should discuss. It merely says it is a forum for military air and ground crews. Surely we can discuss our belly buttons or underwear preferences if we wish. Or even BBQs.
Why does someone always have to bemoan the topic of conversation when it is not immediately aviation related?
I think the attack in the Sinai region is an extremely valid topic of conversation.
Finally before anyone pipes up, because they often do, I don't care if a guy is current or retired. All opinions are valid.
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Why does someone always have to bemoan the topic of conversation when it is not immediately aviation related?
I think the attack in the Sinai region is an extremely valid topic of conversation.
Finally before anyone pipes up, because they often do, I don't care if a guy is current or retired. All opinions are valid.
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Another case for MPA with a broad offensive capability? Something like an MRA4?
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At the risk of being mr obvious.....
Missiles fly or at least defy gravity through brute force....much like ( insert ugly but legendary airframe with mahhoosive engine reference of your choosing) it is surely aviation related.
With that in mind - this does not seem to another grad / home made design as it hit something smaller than the desert and possibly moving and therefore, a guided missile of some western / russian / persian / libyian origin..... any one care to venture what it might be?
Missiles fly or at least defy gravity through brute force....much like ( insert ugly but legendary airframe with mahhoosive engine reference of your choosing) it is surely aviation related.
With that in mind - this does not seem to another grad / home made design as it hit something smaller than the desert and possibly moving and therefore, a guided missile of some western / russian / persian / libyian origin..... any one care to venture what it might be?
I do apologise. I assumed that, apart from Jet Blast, this BB was about aviation with various specialist subsections, this one being as described in it's title ' Military Aviation.'
Carry on.
Carry on.
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"No loss of life for crew..?" Sadly I find this hard to believe. The BBC website shows the entire vessel enveloped in intense white flame burning as high as the vessel is long.
Military aviation relevance? Well our Air Force is currently flying operations against this foe; getting rid of tourists and depriving govt's of their revenue is a key part of their strategy. They've already been 100% successful in this in Tunisia. Egypt next? A pretty clear message; if they can destroy a well-armed warship, how hard is a cruise liner or parked airliner?
Military aviation relevance? Well our Air Force is currently flying operations against this foe; getting rid of tourists and depriving govt's of their revenue is a key part of their strategy. They've already been 100% successful in this in Tunisia. Egypt next? A pretty clear message; if they can destroy a well-armed warship, how hard is a cruise liner or parked airliner?
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Can I post the suggestion that we use the term "Daesh" when referring to the assorted murdering thugs roaming that part of the world?
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Can I post the suggestion that we use the term "Daesh" when referring to the assorted murdering thugs roaming that part of the world?
ISIL's Islamic doctrine:
What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
Western leaders pretending to be scholars of Islam:
Prominent Non-Muslims Decide What Islam Is and Is Not :: Daniel Pipes
From the latter link, it is particularly noteworthy that al-Azhar University, full of actual scholars of Islam, has found itself unable to brand ISIL's core doctrine as heretical!
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Well, the name seems to change every month anyway (Rebels, ISIS, IS, ISIL and now Daesh) so let's, please, settle on one. I'm going to stick with this one because I don't want a late night visit from Laurent's big guys in black Citroens to explain to me that "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" means do as we say or we'll raise your taxes. 
Well, the name seems to change every month anyway (Rebels, ISIS, IS, ISIL and now Daesh) so let's, please, settle on one. I'm going to stick with this one because I don't want a late night visit from Laurent's big guys in black Citroens to explain to me that "Liberté, égalité, fraternité" means do as we say or we'll raise your taxes.
ISIS and ISIL mean the same thing anyway as "al-Sham" is just the Arabic equivalent of "Levant". IS is just a contraction. Daesh means ISIS. They haven't been described as rebels since al-Baghdadi declared the Caliphate. Simples.