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UK P8 Poseidon

Old 5th Aug 2016, 13:22
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry View Post
hard too see many of those nations carrying out major, longrange operations. Most of them (and the others) are aimed at local defence
Harry, that's exactly what I was getting at. (Maybe go back and read my post again?)


Nations who don't need to do power projection aren't taking their subs out of their local area. (A fine example is the San Luis, Falklands, 1982.) Argies were not doing power projection, they were trying a bit of sea denial. HMS Conqueror was in the power projection game. (And did nicely, I might add).
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 13:25
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I'll give the guys at 10 and 11 Sqn a call and let them know that...
Hmm, got my verb tenses wrong. "Will already be" operating P-8 would have been correct, it being 2016 now. Still, it seems a great idea to budget for those training missions down under, doesn't it?
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 18:20
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Not even 1 crew o/s learning it yet, so perhaps the jollies would be better spent in the States..
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 22:05
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Not even 1 crew o/s learning it yet, so perhaps the jollies would be better spent in the States..
Just curious: Why is Oz IOC forecast for the 20's? Deliveries start, allegedly, next year.
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Old 6th Aug 2016, 09:21
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Probably they have to pay the final 10% on IOC................
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 09:16
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Britain, US Pledge to Improve Cooperation in Maritime Patrol Operations

LONDON — Britain and the US have pledged to work closer together on P-8A maritime patrol aircraft operations in the North Atlantic, the two nations announced Thursday.

A declaration to better coordinate maritime patrol aircraft operations and support in the region was signed in London by British Defence Procurement Minister Harriett Baldwin and her US counterpart, Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work. It is only a declaration of intent at the moment. A statement issued by the two officials said they “plan to cooperate closely on operation of their P-8A aircraft in the North Atlantic to ensure a coherent approach to MPA activity.” “The declaration provides a new opportunity to maximize value for money for the taxpayer and continue to strengthen U.K.-U.S. interoperability and to pursue efficiencies in operations and support, including at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland, [the British P-8A base],” according to the statement...........

The British are rebuilding their fleet of maritime patrol aircraft after axing the capability in 2010. In recent years, they have increasingly had to rely on the US and other NATO allies to help search for rising numbers of Russian submarines said to be watching for Royal Navy ballistic missile boats exiting from the naval base at Faslane, Scotland. The move closer on North Atlantic surveillance is part of an expanding effort to counter a growing Russian submarine threat said by analysts and others to be approaching Cold War levels.

The increase in North Atlantic cooperation is not just confined to the UK and US either. Late last year, Norway and Britain signed an agreement to work closer on training and sharing P-8A capabilities. The Nordic nation last year announced it was buying five of the jets to replace its aging Lockheed Martin P-3Cs.

Earlier this month, Defense News reported that top officials from the three nations were seeking to reenergize a maritime surveillance alliance that had faded since the end of the Cold War. In a Dec. 4 interview, Work, of the US Defense Department, termed the expanding relationship between the three P-8A operators as “really, really exciting ... it just opens up a whole new level of possibilities for us to in the future do collaborative and coordinated operations."
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 10:30
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we need to keep an eye on the UK Poseidon order - the problems with the exchange rate will no doubt tempt the Treasury into "delay mode"
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 11:56
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guess it depends when payment due? If on delivery - who knows where the exchange rate will be in 2019...
Like the sound of co-operation. We could provide a big hangar to store all their spares and buoys for when they come to visit (and we promise not to 'borrow' them too often..)
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Old 31st Jan 2017, 15:46
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Ha!

That hangar is in fact still at Keflavik, and many's the time we did actually raid their (the USN) sonobuoy store to keep the flypro going.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 05:48
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Pentagon seeks increased P-8 ties with Norway, UK
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 08:49
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120 Sqn and 201 Sqn announced as the future RAF operators.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:46
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Originally Posted by Hempy View Post
I'll give the guys at 10 and 11 Sqn a call and let them know that...
10 Sqn liveried P8 spotted at Boeing field last week...
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 22:14
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Gosh they must be joining the AT/AR fleet then as 10 Sqn operates Voyager alongside 101Sqn at Brize!!!!
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 22:30
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10 Sqn RAAF, perhaps? Due to be re-equipped with the P-8A next year.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 22:32
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10 Sqn RAF does indeed share the Voyager with 101 Sqn, but I suspect the reference here is to 10 Sqn RAAF, a unit with a long history in the maritime role. Lots of scope for confusion over the years, particularly with both operating from the UK in WW2, and that's before we start with 10 Sqn RFC and 10 Sqn RNAS in France in WW1.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 23:20
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10 Sqn RAAF, perhaps? Due to be re-equipped with the P-8A next year.
Third RAAF P-8 arrived in Australia recently.
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 10:28
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OK, Good plan.

But, where are they going to be based? Which base has ramp space?
Er, Kinloss...
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 12:49
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Originally Posted by DANbudgieman View Post
Er, Kinloss...
Er, Lossiemouth actually
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 14:09
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Jeez,

research b4 posting guys ffs...

Let me clear it up

The RN are buying 120 P80 Neptunes from Africa and they will be based at RAF Macrahanish on the Isle of White and operated by 24 (water-bomber) Reserve Squadron. Seven old timers from the sweetcorn detachments will do the induction.

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Sweetcorn goes well with pies.
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