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they listed the top 10 in 6 categories
The RAF came 7th in tankers, 9th in Combat Helicopters and 6th in training (aircraft plus helicopters)
Didn't figure in Combat aircraft, special mission, or transport categories...
makes you wonder if 343 training airframes is a bit on the high side............... Russia has 346 for reference
The RAF came 7th in tankers, 9th in Combat Helicopters and 6th in training (aircraft plus helicopters)
Didn't figure in Combat aircraft, special mission, or transport categories...
makes you wonder if 343 training airframes is a bit on the high side............... Russia has 346 for reference
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The RAF came 7th in tankers, 9th in Combat Helicopters and 6th in training (aircraft plus helicopters)
....... hang on ..... b@gger ..... 
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I've thought for a few years now that Flight's annual review seems to pick numbers out of the air. They list France as having over 1200 combat aircraft, but taking a consensus from several spotting sights, which quite frankly I would believe first, and considering Alpha Jets as such (stretching a point, I know), the AdlA has 375 jets that can drop nasties (175 Mirage 2000s, 87 Rafales and 113 Alphas), while the Aeronavale has 62 (30 Rafales and 32 Super Etendards). That's quite a difference, and I would say that 1200 is near to the sum of all French air force aircraft.
I used to think better of aviation/defence journalism.
I used to think better of aviation/defence journalism.
I've thought for a few years now that Flight's annual review seems to pick numbers out of the air.
I used to think better of aviation/defence journalism
Knowing the time it takes him and the amount of effort that Craig puts into compiling these lists, I can assure you that they are most definitely not picked out of thin air.
Can you, therefore, account for these apparent discrepancies?
I'm sure there are contact details on the Flight website for you to get the answers you seek, but bear in mind when you do Whenurhappy that we in the media enjoy readers' questions almost as much as you enjoy FOIs.
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I imagine he must rely on open source material from each country. Obviously some are going to over claim for both political and military reasons. At least for western supplied equipment they probably have accurate in-to-service numbers and can keep an eye on accident tallys.
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"Just what I like, 50 bandits trapped on my nose."
I think that sort of statement is best confined to the rather woolly memory of some long-forgotten BoB pilot, don't you?
I think that sort of statement is best confined to the rather woolly memory of some long-forgotten BoB pilot, don't you?
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As I am still serving I have absolutely no intention of writing to Flight International (or anybody else) to seek clarification of these figures.
Unfortunately, I cannot access the explanatory notes on the Flight International articles, which might account for these differences.
The FOIs are a bit of light relief!
As I am still serving I have absolutely no intention of writing to Flight International (or anybody else) to seek clarification of these figures.
Unfortunately, I cannot access the explanatory notes on the Flight International articles, which might account for these differences.
The FOIs are a bit of light relief!
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I see you have 16 posts.
I know of one engagement of 1v16. Contrary to what you may assume there was one aircraft hit and the singleton departed not having been engaged. DR chatter amongst the 16 played no small part.
I know of one engagement of 1v16. Contrary to what you may assume there was one aircraft hit and the singleton departed not having been engaged. DR chatter amongst the 16 played no small part.
Tabs please !
Thank goodness for the Arrows and the BBMF so we can hold our heads up high......
Slightly above Belgium.
Slightly above Belgium.
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Biggie, it proves two points.
It removes fratricide and proves quality over quantity.
It removes fratricide and proves quality over quantity.
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Best cap the F-35 order at 3 then, eliminate fratricide by basing one at MPA, one at Akrotiri, and the other defending the Homeland.
Better still do a Duncan Sandys and just use SAMs. Scrap the airforce and get slap-happy with anything in the air - they won't be ours, after all.
Better still do a Duncan Sandys and just use SAMs. Scrap the airforce and get slap-happy with anything in the air - they won't be ours, after all.
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WW, actually that was the Hungarian plan. Landlocked and constrained to operate within its own landmass rather inhibited air defence UK style. The solved the problem with one SA 5 site in the middle of the country .
Conventional Armed Forces in Europe Treaty declarations.
See page 13 Table 4.02.07 for Declared Attack Helicopters Holdings and Ceilings
See page 14 Table 4.02.08 for Declared Combat Aircraft Holdings and Ceilings.
Published 15th May 2014
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ended_link.pdf
From
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...tatistics-2014
See page 13 Table 4.02.07 for Declared Attack Helicopters Holdings and Ceilings
See page 14 Table 4.02.08 for Declared Combat Aircraft Holdings and Ceilings.
Published 15th May 2014
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ended_link.pdf
From
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...tatistics-2014
Last edited by TEEEJ; 16th Dec 2014 at 13:04. Reason: Additional info added