Fury - a fine film
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Just back from seeing it...meh.
If the SS were actually that inept at destroying tanks, then I'm surprised the war lasted as long as it did. A Sniper that couldn't one shot kill a guy standing exposed on the 50 cal, boxes of Panzerfaust that they stop using after 3 shots, running around the tank like headless chooks? Seriously, how did the Allies not wipe the floor with these Clowns by 1942?
If the SS were actually that inept at destroying tanks, then I'm surprised the war lasted as long as it did. A Sniper that couldn't one shot kill a guy standing exposed on the 50 cal, boxes of Panzerfaust that they stop using after 3 shots, running around the tank like headless chooks? Seriously, how did the Allies not wipe the floor with these Clowns by 1942?
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The reason is 'western propaganda'! Hollywood will always make the bad guys look rubbish compared to our war heroes.
Do you honestly think the SS would run around like headless chooks? The Germans had the famous Tiger tank which p*ssed all over the Sherman.
Do you honestly think the SS would run around like headless chooks? The Germans had the famous Tiger tank which p*ssed all over the Sherman.
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Indeed they wil B739 but I get a feeling that Joe Q Public will inevitably forget that the Nazi's were a force to be reckoned with and a 'cartoonish' representation of them will diminish the reasons why we need to be vigilant that such a hateful force is never inflicted upon the World again.
As for the Tiger, 4x Shermans will do the job (if that was a Tiger portrayed, was drifting off about then).
Anyway, seen it now. I can start to look forward to a more realistic representation of the War when Dads Army is released...
As for the Tiger, 4x Shermans will do the job (if that was a Tiger portrayed, was drifting off about then).
Anyway, seen it now. I can start to look forward to a more realistic representation of the War when Dads Army is released...
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It was indeed a real Tiger it was Bovingtons I believe. Panzerfaust are single shot, Panzershrek are multiple."
Spill the beans Buster, are you in the new Dads Army?
http://www.tankmuseum.org/ixbin/inde...U_=Exhibitions
4 Shermans would struggle against a Tiger, look at Wittmands finest hour.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann
The man who killed him
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tank-ace.html
Spill the beans Buster, are you in the new Dads Army?
http://www.tankmuseum.org/ixbin/inde...U_=Exhibitions
4 Shermans would struggle against a Tiger, look at Wittmands finest hour.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann
The man who killed him
"Usually, it took five Shermans to beat one Tiger, but the Fireflies were better. When I heard about the concentration camps, I knew it was all worth it. I'm quite proud. Wittmann was a Nazi from the start - he must have known about the camps. It didn't matter who killed him, just that he was killed."
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A documentary recently screened on Quest came to the conclussion that it was the Canadians who actually got Wittman. Either way GJ 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCNz7OC8YIs
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No Nutty, I was too old for the Home Guard...
Like how the turrets just popped off with other hatches open...
One of Ayer’s mandates for the production was that it would be told in a way that would be as historically accurate as possible.
For Tigers and Panzerfausts you can't beat this (most likely as (in)accurate as Fury in a lot of cases):
Peter Rabbit Tank Killer by Beatrix Potter and Sven Hassel
Not safe for Kids.
Peter Rabbit Tank Killer by Beatrix Potter and Sven Hassel
Not safe for Kids.
I can't seem to find Sven Hassel's follow up books to
Beast Regmient
Gestapo
Which I enjoyed as a teen.
I think the other two books were called
SS General
Legion of the Damned
Could never find them. I suppose I need to hunt around on line ... out of print for years, if ever printed on this side of the pond.
Saw Fury yesterday with my son.
I guess the point of the movie was to show how war brutalizes people. That "heroes" are probably not who you think they are. That cartoons can be put on a screen just as in a comic book. That someone, perhaps the director, read and believed the old DC comic "The Haunted Tank" and believed that it was non fiction. I probalby read a dozen episodes of that serial when I was 10 or 11, about when I was reading Biggles. I wonder if I still have any of those old comic books up in the attic ...
Won't see Fury again. Wasn't a bad diversion for a single afternoon. Glad we didn't pay full price.
Beast Regmient
Gestapo
Which I enjoyed as a teen.
I think the other two books were called
SS General
Legion of the Damned
Could never find them. I suppose I need to hunt around on line ... out of print for years, if ever printed on this side of the pond.
Saw Fury yesterday with my son.
I guess the point of the movie was to show how war brutalizes people. That "heroes" are probably not who you think they are. That cartoons can be put on a screen just as in a comic book. That someone, perhaps the director, read and believed the old DC comic "The Haunted Tank" and believed that it was non fiction. I probalby read a dozen episodes of that serial when I was 10 or 11, about when I was reading Biggles. I wonder if I still have any of those old comic books up in the attic ...
Won't see Fury again. Wasn't a bad diversion for a single afternoon. Glad we didn't pay full price.
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But that's a T34 MAINJAFFAD, and the panzerfaust looks like a panzershrek, I would complain to the Potter foundation. It must have been rewritten for the American market, they don't do accuracy.
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I was in the Oakham Co-Op the other day and saw his books for sale, three for a fiver. By another quirk of fate, a film of one of his books was on the telly the other evening as well. I haven't thought about him or his books in 25 years and all of a sudden..
He died a couple of years back. I think his estate is starting to push the brand again. World War Two, the gift that keeps on giving.
I was in the Oakham Co-Op the other day and saw his books for sale, three for a fiver. By another quirk of fate, a film of one of his books was on the telly the other evening as well. I haven't thought about him or his books in 25 years and all of a sudden..
He died a couple of years back. I think his estate is starting to push the brand again. World War Two, the gift that keeps on giving.
Nutloose, Looks more like a T55 to me (in fact had to stop to let one of them pass me a few weeks ago while exiting Mucklebrough). I concur with the comment about the anti tank weapon, though Rabbits don't tend to run around with MP40s or WWII German infantry anti tank weapons (there's a bit of a scale issue to put it mildly). The drawings and text date came from a British satire book called "The Book of Revelations" by Mark Leigh and Mike Lepine in the late 1980's and was a mocking of Authors flogging dead horses due to publisher pressure. Was never really into Sven Hassel (or Miss Potter when I was younger).
MAINJAFAD!!, Our 2yo grand-daughter was nearby when Benjamin rabbit shouted "Waste the F****r!"
I now await, with some trepidation, the next time she has a row with her siblings
I now await, with some trepidation, the next time she has a row with her siblings
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and smileys slightly amended.
mechta/Al R: Thanks!
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