Afghan G222s Sold for Scrap
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Afghan G222s Sold for Scrap
Planes For Afghan Air Force, Sells Scrap For 6 Cents A Pound
Sixteen unusable transport aircraft that the US government bought for the Afghan Air Force have been scrapped for pennies on the dollar, according to the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction.
All told, the Defense Department spent $486 million for 20 G222 planes, of which 16 were sold as scrap to an Afghan construction company for about $32,000, the office announced Thursday in a news release. . The remaining four planes are being stored at Ramstein Air Base, Germany.
The Air Force let the contract for the planes with Alenia Aermacchi North America expire in March 2013 because the planes were often grounded due to a lack of spare parts.
After flight operations ended, the 16 planes in Afghanistan sat on the tarmac at Kabul International Airport until they were recently scrapped by the Defense Logistics Agency and sold for 6 cents per pound of scrapped material, wrote John F. Spoko, Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction, in an Oct. 3 letter to Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James.
“I am concerned that officials responsible for planning and executing the scrapping the planes may not have considered other possible alternatives in order to salvage taxpayer dollars,” Spoko wrote.
Spoko has requested from the Air Force all documentation related to the decision to scrap the planes, including whether any alternatives were considered and what will happen to the four remaining planes. He also wants to know if the Air Force has taken any action against the companies responsible for building and maintaining the planes and if the service made any efforts to return the planes for a refund.
The 16 G222 aircraft were scrapped “to minimize impact on drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan,” a Defense Department spokesman said.
“The Department of Defense and U.S. Air Force will consider plans for the remaining four aircraft and associated items located in Germany consistent with existing disposition procedures, to include screening for outside interest,” the spokesman said in an email. “The Department of Defense (DoD) strives to ensure every reconstruction project is executed in a manner that demonstrates responsible stewardship of taxpayers' dollars.”
In December 2012, Spoke wrote a letter to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel as well as the commanders of US Central Command and U.S. troops in Afghanistan announcing that his office had begun a review of the G222 program.
“Despite spending at least $486.1 million in acquisition and sustainment costs on the program, DODIG [Defense Department Inspector General’s office] reported the aircraft flew only 234 of 4,500 required hours from January through September 2012,” Spoke wrote in the Dec. 5 letter. “The DODIG also concluded that an additional $200 million in Afghan Security Forces Funds might have been spent on spare parts for the aircraft to meet operational requirements, noting that several critical spare parts for the aircraft were unavailable.”
Sixteen unusable transport aircraft that the US government bought for the Afghan Air Force have been scrapped for pennies on the dollar, according to the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction.
All told, the Defense Department spent $486 million for 20 G222 planes, of which 16 were sold as scrap to an Afghan construction company for about $32,000, the office announced Thursday in a news release. . The remaining four planes are being stored at Ramstein Air Base, Germany.
The Air Force let the contract for the planes with Alenia Aermacchi North America expire in March 2013 because the planes were often grounded due to a lack of spare parts.
After flight operations ended, the 16 planes in Afghanistan sat on the tarmac at Kabul International Airport until they were recently scrapped by the Defense Logistics Agency and sold for 6 cents per pound of scrapped material, wrote John F. Spoko, Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction, in an Oct. 3 letter to Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James.
“I am concerned that officials responsible for planning and executing the scrapping the planes may not have considered other possible alternatives in order to salvage taxpayer dollars,” Spoko wrote.
Spoko has requested from the Air Force all documentation related to the decision to scrap the planes, including whether any alternatives were considered and what will happen to the four remaining planes. He also wants to know if the Air Force has taken any action against the companies responsible for building and maintaining the planes and if the service made any efforts to return the planes for a refund.
The 16 G222 aircraft were scrapped “to minimize impact on drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan,” a Defense Department spokesman said.
“The Department of Defense and U.S. Air Force will consider plans for the remaining four aircraft and associated items located in Germany consistent with existing disposition procedures, to include screening for outside interest,” the spokesman said in an email. “The Department of Defense (DoD) strives to ensure every reconstruction project is executed in a manner that demonstrates responsible stewardship of taxpayers' dollars.”
In December 2012, Spoke wrote a letter to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel as well as the commanders of US Central Command and U.S. troops in Afghanistan announcing that his office had begun a review of the G222 program.
“Despite spending at least $486.1 million in acquisition and sustainment costs on the program, DODIG [Defense Department Inspector General’s office] reported the aircraft flew only 234 of 4,500 required hours from January through September 2012,” Spoke wrote in the Dec. 5 letter. “The DODIG also concluded that an additional $200 million in Afghan Security Forces Funds might have been spent on spare parts for the aircraft to meet operational requirements, noting that several critical spare parts for the aircraft were unavailable.”
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They were secondhand dogs, some of them even went tech on delivery from being remanufactured and even the Afghans refused to accept them.
Best thing for them really, I would hate to think of the cost of trying to recover them back out of the country.
The later models the US bought and then put into storage, but have since started to be farmed out to other agencies are a totally different beast to these things.
It was like buying Ford Model T's and expecting Ford to restart spares production for them.
Best thing for them really, I would hate to think of the cost of trying to recover them back out of the country.
The later models the US bought and then put into storage, but have since started to be farmed out to other agencies are a totally different beast to these things.
It was like buying Ford Model T's and expecting Ford to restart spares production for them.
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Sorry Salad Dodger, I should have been more accurate "Expensive second hand dogs"
I remember reading a DOD blurb about em and the Afghans never wanted them.
For what it's worth read,
Dutch Defence Press » Afghan Air Force welcomes cancellation of C-27 purchase
They had already decided to destroy them last year BTW
U.S. Acquisition Decisions Undermine Afghan Air Force - DETAIL - Alenia Aermacchi North America
I remember reading a DOD blurb about em and the Afghans never wanted them.
For what it's worth read,
Dutch Defence Press » Afghan Air Force welcomes cancellation of C-27 purchase
They had already decided to destroy them last year BTW
U.S. Acquisition Decisions Undermine Afghan Air Force - DETAIL - Alenia Aermacchi North America
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The Americans simply piss money away, I mean look at this, these are 1.1 million dollar football pitches for the Iraqi kids, and they built 3 of these.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...8e5_story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...8e5_story.html
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From the report to congress
http://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyre...13-01-30qr.pdf
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Do the Afghans want it and need it?
Best practice in offering assistance should include determining that the intended recipient actually wants and needs the project. SIGAR has not always found that to be the case in Afghanistan. Two recent SIGAR inspec- tion reports (Inspections 13-4 and 13-5), for example, found that most of the buildings at five Afghan Border Police facilities costing a total of $26 million in Kunduz and Nangarhar Provinces were either unoccupied or being used for unintended purposes, including one that was being used as a chicken coop.6 It is difficult to consider a project as wanted and needed if its intended recipients are not using it or are using it for an unplanned purpose
Best practice in offering assistance should include determining that the intended recipient actually wants and needs the project. SIGAR has not always found that to be the case in Afghanistan. Two recent SIGAR inspec- tion reports (Inspections 13-4 and 13-5), for example, found that most of the buildings at five Afghan Border Police facilities costing a total of $26 million in Kunduz and Nangarhar Provinces were either unoccupied or being used for unintended purposes, including one that was being used as a chicken coop.6 It is difficult to consider a project as wanted and needed if its intended recipients are not using it or are using it for an unplanned purpose
$230 Million in Missing Repair Parts
In September 2012, the Commander of ISAF’s Advisory and Assistance Team—a military assessment team—reported that CSTC-A could not account for 474 out of 500 shipping containers with $230 million worth of repair parts for ANSF equipment. CSTC-A purchased the repair parts for the Afghan forces between 2007 and 2011. The team that discovered the parts were missing said this may have triggered a requirement that CSTC-A reor- der additional repair parts at a cost of nearly $137 million
In September 2012, the Commander of ISAF’s Advisory and Assistance Team—a military assessment team—reported that CSTC-A could not account for 474 out of 500 shipping containers with $230 million worth of repair parts for ANSF equipment. CSTC-A purchased the repair parts for the Afghan forces between 2007 and 2011. The team that discovered the parts were missing said this may have triggered a requirement that CSTC-A reor- der additional repair parts at a cost of nearly $137 million
Investigation Determines CSTC-A Cannot Account for
$201 Million in Fuel Purchases
In this reporting period, SIGAR investigators determined that because of CSTC-A’s failure to comply with record-retention polices, the U.S. govern- ment still cannot account for $201 million in fuel purchased to support the Afghan National Army (ANA).
$201 Million in Fuel Purchases
In this reporting period, SIGAR investigators determined that because of CSTC-A’s failure to comply with record-retention polices, the U.S. govern- ment still cannot account for $201 million in fuel purchased to support the Afghan National Army (ANA).
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US National Debt just before 9/11 - $6.5 Trillion
Current US National Debt $17.9 Trillion
Wars are expensive.
Wars started illegally, run by idiots, and continued for no good strategic reason, are particularly expensive.
Current US National Debt $17.9 Trillion
Wars are expensive.
Wars started illegally, run by idiots, and continued for no good strategic reason, are particularly expensive.
$25 million a plane .......................bet second hand salesman got drunk that night when he realised a complete bunch of muppets wanted to buy his useless aircraft.
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Someone is making a killing out of pissing away taxpayers hard earned money, not just US&A folk either.
Something doesn't add up, national debt is over £1trillion, we can't even afford the interest payments, yet the government is very keen to get involved in expensive wars, bail out banks, give money to India etc
A politician's job is to continually fail and rob the taxpayer, here's your 11% payrise.......
Something doesn't add up, national debt is over £1trillion, we can't even afford the interest payments, yet the government is very keen to get involved in expensive wars, bail out banks, give money to India etc
A politician's job is to continually fail and rob the taxpayer, here's your 11% payrise.......
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When you read that congress report I linked you to, it makes interesting reading about the cases of fraud, one US sergeant was caught trying to smuggle 1,000,000 dollars back to the states at the end of his tour!
An32 hell of a hot and high airlifter, India bought them to operate high in the mountains . Big motors ! 5000 ehp turboprops, which I seem to recall needs an engine change / deep maintenance at a ridiculously low number of hours?
Seems odd that uncle same buys mils as fit for purpose and ignores the progeny an family and buys old refurbished crappers that were not that great in the first place ( c27 excepted)
Seems odd that uncle same buys mils as fit for purpose and ignores the progeny an family and buys old refurbished crappers that were not that great in the first place ( c27 excepted)
