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Labour demand to know each time a Tornado takes off!

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Old 30th Sep 2014, 08:15
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The story assumes that Cameron is rung every time one takes off. That's the issue if true.
As for Harman. You're not Gov Luv. On your bike.
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 08:51
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Well, seeing as you both reposted the article AND brought up what you describe as "the high cost of social engineering in the RAF" bit of a double own goal there eh?
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 19:16
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Nothing to do with politics - it's a classic case of a nonentity seeking to become a stakeholder in a process that she has zero understanding of, nor influence over. She just seeks the illusion of "involvement".

A classic tactic played by managers promoted way above their capabilities in many fields...
"I want to be cc'd on that".
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 19:44
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They need Labour's votes in Westminster. Harperson is doing this to make them squirm. Playing party politics over what is the right thing to do. Don't joke about her demanding more women to be involved, she has history of it in all industries. A truly repulsive woman.
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Surely even David Cameron doesn't get woken from his slumber every time a Tornado takes off on an agreed sortie!?

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Old 30th Sep 2014, 21:12
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Surely even David Cameron doesn't get woken from his slumber every time a Tornado takes off on an agreed sortie!?
I wish he did.

"Hey Call Me Dave, another aircrew are putting their lives at risk because you politicians screwed up again. now go back to sleep".
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 21:21
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The war is won, haven't you heard, we blew up a truck and took out a gun pit... But listening to the press you would think we've just single handedly turned the tide of the war... Well done guys, but next time could you please take out the press corp hotel first and save us from all the verbiage.
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 21:27
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Expensive way to take out a machine gun.
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 21:46
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Anyone on here from Camberwell or Peckham?

If you are, it seems you can ask her what her reasoning is.

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Old 30th Sep 2014, 22:43
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Expensive way to take out a machine gun.
What was cost ? £500k ?
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Old 1st Oct 2014, 10:54
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Thank you gr4techie and racedo. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.
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Accepting that it's off centreline on this Thread but is this sort of detail really helpful?
RAF jets fired four missiles at Islamic State (IS) vehicles in Iraq overnight, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said.

It said two Tornados had fired Brimstone missiles at an armed pick-up truck and a transport vehicle west of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, adding that the strikes had been "successful".
"At the scene they were able to identify Isil activity and two vehicles, one of which was an armed pick-up truck," it said.

"Four Brimstone missiles were used to conduct a precision attack on the vehicles. Initial analysis indicates that the strikes were successful."
BBC News - Islamic State vehicles targeted by RAF Tornados

Leaving aside doing the IS Int wallahs work for them do the people on the Clapham omnibus need to know the kill ratios? At least they haven't trotted out the rate book value of each round; yet.
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Old 1st Oct 2014, 11:49
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Thank you gr4techie and racedo. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.
My worry is will RAF run out of missiles before ISIS run out of Toyota HiLuxs ....................
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Old 1st Oct 2014, 11:59
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Based on the Top Gear tests, it probably takes at least 4 Brimstones to take out a HiLux !
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A couple of 20mm Adens would have come in handy, and cheaper.
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I'm sorry but I just can't help myself. The Aden is a 30mm cannon that was never fitted to Tornados. The Mauser that is fitted to the GR4 is a 27mm cannon.

We often complain about the inaccuracy of journalists when it comes to matters of defence so we really should hold ourselves to the highest standards in this regard.

Your suggestion had some validity but was ruined in the execution.

Now take yourself off to a quiet corner and self flaggelate please.

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Old 1st Oct 2014, 14:13
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I'm sorry but I just can't help myself. The Aden is a 30mm cannon that was never fitted to Tornados. The Mauser that is fitted to the GR4 is a 27mm cannon.
Relatively easy to Retro fit...................... just think of a number add lots of zeros and there you have it.

Should really add that if you wish your retro fit to work................ not correctly just work that requires lots more money.......................... there are shareholders and directors bonuses to think of.

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Old 1st Oct 2014, 14:23
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If we are in a picky mood.... shouldn't it now be called a "South Yemen" Cannon?
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Aden had a better ring to it.

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Old 1st Oct 2014, 15:54
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OK Bob, I stand corrected. It was only a light-hearted comment anyway. I'm a long was out of the RAF, and the nearest I got to an armed aircraft was a Wessex with a 7.62(?)mm GPMG firing out of the door. Funnily enough, it was in Aden (Yemen to the purists).
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