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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 10:34
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New addition to the RNHF stable

Feature ? Sea Vixen Returns To RNAS Yeovilton | Tom Mercer Photography

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Good luck to all, and may she continue to fly for many years
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Excellent news. Back where she belongs.
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and they're fundraising to keep her flying so go on their website and donate !
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But tinged with sadness, as those that looked after her received their P45's
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Keep her in the air


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Old 24th Sep 2014, 07:59
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Great news: but I still find it strange to look at 134 with such dazzling white paint. All the shipborne cabs got very scruffy very quickly, and never, ever looked liked that.

When we went into Capetown and 800NAS flew ashore for the duration, the 24 Squadron Buccaneers were in showroom condition when compared to the sea-worn cabs that were accepted as the norm on carriers.
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I am a big fan of the Sea Vixen; however when it comes to flying displays, I leave my rose tinted specs behind. It is in competition with Vulcan and Canberra PR9 on the display circuit and I doubt very much it will be a financially viable contender. RNHF are alteady overstreched and have not had a Swordfish ready for the start of the season in the last three years - this year the Sea Fury was not ready either. To be a front runner; these aircraft need to be fully serviceable with PDA crews before the Abingdon event (1st show of the year). I see this addition adding to the problem, not providing a solution. I also wonder where this will put the Seahawk restoration at a time when Sea Fury is about to cost a lot of money.
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It is not operated by the Royal Navy historic flight, so there is no competition for funds. It is now owned by a private company with links to rnhf.. The naval historic flight trust and naval aviation limited.

It's all very complicated and I need my horlicks
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 09:28
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Pity it's in (or in a collection related to) the RNHF, it would be a quantum leap in current RN capability.......
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 10:24
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It would be great to see the Seahawk back though, IMHO one of the most attractive of aircraft. Now if we did not pour all that money into the coffers of the tin triangle there might be more to go round other worthwhile projects - OK, hat, coat.......................
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Safety.

What type and mark of ejection seat is it fitted with? Is it a Martin Baker Mark 4? I don't know, but think it may be this type.
Does anyone think the level of risk to the person flying the aircraft has been reduced to the lowest possible level?
Vintage aircraft painted in the RN colours haven't had the greatest record in safety.
I'm no longer in, but take a detached view now that while the RNs safety record with service aircraft was comparatively good, ex Naval aircraft=less so.
Why ask or expect pilots to fly with a significantly lower safety expectation than their serving counterparts?
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RN FAA historic aircraft.

Seen a few prangs over the years and heard the stories....we just weren't as good as the RAF... understand that this a private funded aircraft and can thus do as it pleases within its legal framework, but no doubt some RN senior staff officers will be creaming their knicks at the thought of its press value in the future...good luck with all of that. Glad I've moved out of South Somerset and into my deep salt mine, put it that way.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 19:47
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Hangarshuffle...

Early Type 4 seats - can't remember the sub-mark but they were very specific to Sea Vixen. ISTR some kit associated with underwater ejection from my Fitters Course at Halton in '76. We had a Sea Vixen in the Armourer's hangar on the Airfield used for Seat Fits and Removals, and Weapon load training. Getting the Observer's Seat into and out of the 'Coal Hole' was interesting!
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 20:21
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HS, I agree with your basic point but "RN safety record with service aircraft comparatively good..".?? Only compared to things that are very dangerous, surely. By no means knocking the FAA but the safety record of Sea Vixen-era jets by RN or anyone else, placed in the context of modern air safety would be seen as catastrophic.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 21:06
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Hangarshuffle, for the avoidance of doubt and in the interests of accuracy I can assure you the RN take very seriously the safety of those of us lucky enough to fly these aeroplanes. The levels of safety expected of RNHF aircraft are the same as those expected on in-service aircraft.


If you have any concerns about the way we operate and maintain our aircraft please feel free to visit us at RNHF and put them to us directly.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 22:14
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RNHF_PILOT,

Shame you don't have a single airworthy aeroplane, why is that?
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 23:20
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That one is probably a fraction below the belt.

You can have an air force if you can afford it.
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Old 24th Sep 2014, 23:26
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Pro one,
Perhaps they are attempting to reverse engineer the required safety and assurance documentation onto airframes that historically have never had them?

Bit like Rivet Joint really.....£1Bn couldn't generate a case that quickly could it?

PS - there are more Merlins and Griffons around than Centaurus and Pegasus...that may well explain some of the issues.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 12:15
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pr00ne..... that was uncalled for and a tad harsh. I understand the RNHF is not funded on a similar basis to the excellent operation at BBMF

Most sea furies have gone down the P&W route as the bristols are difficult. I know the RNHF have had some trouble with the swordfish and the sea hawk. Not sure if this is down the quality of voluntary work undertaken by BAE or another issue
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