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IRAQ 3?

Old 11th Aug 2014, 21:14
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The key question regarding the carriers is how many F-35s will we get?! Probably only have about 6 embark on a cruise. It will just be another very costly PR exercise, a token to show that we are with Washington, that we are strong, that we are important, that our leaders have real power.
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Old 11th Aug 2014, 21:32
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Iraq PM Malaki gone, new PM sounds a bit more robust in dealing with ISIS.
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Old 11th Aug 2014, 22:00
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I'd happily send a few dozen of these to the Iraqi Army

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Old 11th Aug 2014, 22:20
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There must be a load of surplus A-10s sitting in desert storage these days..How about pulling them out and letting all those out of work Harrier mates have something to keep current on?
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Old 11th Aug 2014, 22:21
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Ronald, when you say "our leaders", of whom are you talking?
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 06:31
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Britains leaders are dropping out like flies.

Minister quits because 120,000 salary and expenses is not enough to support his family in London - Telegraph


This is the second UK Conservative Government Foreign Minister to resign in one week. Just when we need their brains, ability and leadership, Lincolnshire and the little squealers become more important.
Whose in charge in Britain now the PM's on the beach? Is it Clegg? He seems very absent also.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 07:24
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Ronald, when you say "our leaders", of whom are you talking?
Ha ha, I was just thinking the exact same thing. In your past three posts Ronald you have said 'we/our' six times! Stop trying so hard, the gig was up a long time ago.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 07:38
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If the RAF are sending fast jets to the sand will the tankers go and the Falklands airbridge go out to tender again???????

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Old 12th Aug 2014, 10:11
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Smile Three left

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All is well. Of our 3 x GR4 Sqns; 31 have just stagged on for the last turn of the handle in Kandahar, IX (B) are just back and on leave, leaving shiny II as our deployable force element. Sorted. Best hurry up though as the sqn disbands in 7 months....
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 14:22
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3 have left UK, more to follow if BBC are on the nail. No mention of tanker support yet but guess it has to happen.

BBC News - RAF Tornado jets leave UK for Iraq aid mission
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 16:35
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had a bright thought listening to the gnus.

"why is not Switzerland [for example] "doing something about it". [Whatever "it" is].

Never mind the government being commitment-phobic, most of the country are commitment-phobic".
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 16:56
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Based at Akkers - going to be some long sorties and 'interesting routing'. Hope Voyager is ready to go....
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 17:00
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The video of the other aid being dropped by Helicopter,
I think an Iraqi one.

They said it came under fire and they showed video of the gunner firing his weapon,
does that mean the Chinooks are likely to be armed ?
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 17:26
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Based at Akkers - going to be some long sorties and 'interesting routing'. Hope Voyager is ready to go....
Not really...any tanker pilot with some hours behind him will know it well from the days of Res North/Northern Watch.

Shame our C17s aren't cleared CDS airdrop - 40 at a time vs the C130's 16(?) might be quite useful.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 18:06
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What is discipline/control like on the ground?
Will any Rocks be deployed with the Wokkas?
If so, what ROE will they have?
All serious questions and all linked.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 18:17
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Edit
I just noticed a news flash that one of the Mi-17 helicopters crashed on take off
due to too many people climbed on board. Very sad.


I found the video I was referring to above.

This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"

The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 18:24
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Originally Posted by 500N:8605359
I found the video i was referring to above.

This also shows the level of "discipline/control like on the ground?"

The kid holding onto the gun as the Helicopter takes off and
is pulled inside when they are airborne is at 1.35 onwards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgPaAUxwvU
I can't access that at the moment, but can only presume it's pretty chaotic, hence my supplementary questions.
I witnessed such chaotic scenes on several missions with 18 Sqn at the start of Haven.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 18:28
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I would say it is chaotic but anything out of normal military
methods I would say was chaotic.


Not sure about the gunner firing his MG and whether that was just for the camera to make good footage,
maybe someone with good experience can pass judgement on it.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 18:46
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I have the ultimate faith in the Brize crews - just hope the rest of the system is up to it. At least its relatively benign and a couple of handy divs in Turkey (Dipclrs permitting!) it should prove to be a good test.
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