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Presumably the 'dissidents' shop at British Military Surplus?
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There is a part of me that wonders if they are trying to draw NATO forces into this -the fear is pressure builds on the politicians to 'do something' to secure the crash site, so they send in a battalion of paras, and give the Russians an excuse.
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There is a part of me that wonders if they are trying to draw NATO forces into this -the fear is pressure builds on the politicians to 'do something' to secure the crash site, so they send in a battalion of paras, and give the Russians an excuse.
The Romanians use UK pattern material, but what confirmed to me that the UKR dissidents were using genuine, actual British uniforms was the photo on the front of Friday's Telegraph - the fat militiaman (armed with a WWII vintage rifle) hadn't bothered to tuck in the pyjama-style draw-strings on his Dessie pattern trousers.
I always wondered what those otherwise useless draw-strings were for - they are aids to identification.
I always wondered what those otherwise useless draw-strings were for - they are aids to identification.
The Royal Air Force badge and RAF Tac Flash are a bit of a giveaway as to the origin of that uniform (The badges are not on the uniform when issued, so its most likely been sold on E-bay).
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What's pissing me off is as with Sky and now the BBC, is their damn reporters are bleating on about the crash site being a crime scene that needs protecting so as not to disturb evidence until it has been investigated, and they are all walking through it 
I realise that it's no longer a sterile site, but a bunch of press reporters, cameramen, sound engineers and what ever from each countries press corp wandering through the crash sites isn't exactly bloody helping..
I realise that it's no longer a sterile site, but a bunch of press reporters, cameramen, sound engineers and what ever from each countries press corp wandering through the crash sites isn't exactly bloody helping..
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Not to mention TWO reporters from different stations - I think (CNN) and Australian ABC - filmed themselves rummaging through personal belongings in cases !!! (Although both corrected themselves when they realized what they were doing).
But, you would have thought they would have known better.
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It was Sky news as noted by Nutloose below.
But, you would have thought they would have known better.
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It was Sky news as noted by Nutloose below.
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It was sky news, I was biting my lip over that one. The guy should be sacked.
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In fairness to the Sky news guy. He did realise and state on air that he shouldn't be doing it and stopped didn't he? Only seen edited clips on my phone so I stand to be corrected.
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Yes, he did.
Still should have known better.
Here is the ABC one
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rash-site.html
Still should have known better.
Here is the ABC one
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rash-site.html
I realise that it's no longer a sterile site, but a bunch of press reporters, cameramen, sound engineers and what ever from each countries press corp wandering through the crash sites isn't exactly bloody helping..
To my mind, the news crews being there have been critical in preserving the scene for the international community.
Misbehaviour, real or alleged, notwithstanding, had the press not been there when they were, IMHO we would have not got this far....................time will tell if it is all smoke and mirrors
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Does anyone not know how "wrong" it is to be rifling through personal belongings of the Dead following a tragedy such as this?
The one thing it does do in a good way is to point out just how horrible a loss civilized society has suffered in every aspect of this shoot down of so many innocent human beings.
Not that it matters a bit to Putin and those others who are responsible for the Mass Murder of those aboard the Airliner.
The one thing it does do in a good way is to point out just how horrible a loss civilized society has suffered in every aspect of this shoot down of so many innocent human beings.
Not that it matters a bit to Putin and those others who are responsible for the Mass Murder of those aboard the Airliner.
I was at Farnborough for the first three days, so I can imagine the atmosphere inside the Halls, and out on static display on the Thursday, as soon as the news was broadcasted. If anyone was here on that day, did everything come to a grinding halt for the rest of the afternoon?
Having read 500N's link , especially the reader responses below the article were quite hmm vocal and shooting back at the DM for holding up double standards.
Chinook! Special Forces Flight In Peace and War is worth a read especially with the author's own experience dealing with Lockerbie in one chapter. Interesting to see through his eyes, the bit about the police van with its back doors swinging, leaving the crash site.
Noticed on the CH4 news last night, the film footage of the train - that one of the bags did not quite cover one victim and thankfully one of the Dutch investigators hastily amended the situation.
Here is an update by the Dutch MoD
Australische en Nederlandse militaire transportvliegtuigen voor terugkeer slachtoffers | Nieuwsbericht | Defensie.nl
as the RAAF C-17A is also present to help with the delicate tasking of repatriating.
Having read 500N's link , especially the reader responses below the article were quite hmm vocal and shooting back at the DM for holding up double standards.
Chinook! Special Forces Flight In Peace and War is worth a read especially with the author's own experience dealing with Lockerbie in one chapter. Interesting to see through his eyes, the bit about the police van with its back doors swinging, leaving the crash site.
Noticed on the CH4 news last night, the film footage of the train - that one of the bags did not quite cover one victim and thankfully one of the Dutch investigators hastily amended the situation.
Here is an update by the Dutch MoD
Australische en Nederlandse militaire transportvliegtuigen voor terugkeer slachtoffers | Nieuwsbericht | Defensie.nl
as the RAAF C-17A is also present to help with the delicate tasking of repatriating.
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Perverted truth: How rebel mourning MH17 victims was turned into looter with trophy
http://rt.com/news/174332-ukraine-pl...oto-perverted/
http://rt.com/news/174332-ukraine-pl...oto-perverted/
I thought it was rather inappropriate to describe the panel so unequivocally as being damaged by shrapnel. I mean, okay, yes, that's very much what it looks like, and he's probably right, but I would hesitate to preempt a more professional analysis.
Can't disintegrating jet engines also produce high velocity debris that can do similar things?
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Can't disintegrating jet engines also produce high velocity debris that can do similar things?
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It was sky news, I was biting my lip over that one. The guy should be sacked.
"Broadcasting live from a situation like that is fraught with dangers... This was a long, open-ended presentational broadcast, a technique pioneered on Sky News.
As Brazier explains it delivers insights that anchoring a piece from London simply cannot do...
One of the things that caught his eye in the suitcase was a pink drinking flask. His own six-year-old daughter Kitty has one exactly the same.
He picked it up and started to cry, something that wasn't evident during the broadcast.
This was a father, lost for a moment, comprehending the horror of what he was witnessing by recognising something familiar, something close to home. Not some cynical hack looking to take advantage.
He deserves to be criticised – but not castigated."
MH17: BBC veteran supports Sky News reporter over his 'error of judgment' | Media | theguardian.com
To my mind, the Guardian quote shows the TV presenter acting like a human being and a father who has found himself in the middle of something too terrible to comprehend rather than trying to pre-empt the official enquiry, but that's just my opinion.