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And the "War Room" was made up too......
...... don't know what there really is (or isn't) but apparently Ronnie R wanted to see it when he became Pres, and was disappointed with the reality ......
...... don't know what there really is (or isn't) but apparently Ronnie R wanted to see it when he became Pres, and was disappointed with the reality ......
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Apparently Gen. Curtis le May was a key real life figure that Gen Ripper of Dr Strangelove was based upon.
A great book on the era, politics and the reasons behind the space race is:
Also goes into detail about the sort of character Le May was; a downright nasty piece of work suffering from the sort of megalomania that any senior officer needs to avoid.
A great book on the era, politics and the reasons behind the space race is:
Also goes into detail about the sort of character Le May was; a downright nasty piece of work suffering from the sort of megalomania that any senior officer needs to avoid.
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And the "War Room" was made up too......
I don't think Ripper was LeMay. On the other hand, Turgidson wasn't far off LeMay's deputy and successor, Tommy Power.
Strangelove was based on the plot of a British novel, Red Alert, by Peter George. The book Fail-Safe was so similar that George sued for plagiarism (it was settled out of court) - which explains why the movies are so alike.
It's always a good sign when you can use the phrase "mutiny of preverts" and the other person gets it.
Strangelove was based on the plot of a British novel, Red Alert, by Peter George. The book Fail-Safe was so similar that George sued for plagiarism (it was settled out of court) - which explains why the movies are so alike.
It's always a good sign when you can use the phrase "mutiny of preverts" and the other person gets it.
My understanding is the B52 interior was modelled (guessed) on the B29 layout, plus some creative stuff. I may be wrong. Also, I may have some faults, but being wrong isn't one of them.
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Didn't Curt "Iron Ass" Le May actually fly combat missions as the 8th AF was building up to full strength in the ETO? That would have been interesting if he'd been shot down and taken prisoner.
Did Bomber Harris ever fly combat missions WW2?
Did Bomber Harris ever fly combat missions WW2?
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Didn't Curt "Iron Ass" Le May actually fly combat missions as the 8th AF was building up to full strength in the ETO? That would have been interesting if he'd been shot down and taken prisoner.
Did Bomber Harris ever fly combat missions WW2?
Did Bomber Harris ever fly combat missions WW2?
Very sight differences in the point of Harris and Lemay's careers in 1942, like 23 years (Harris did Lemay's early WWII levels in WW1!!!). Harris quite rightly though that most airmen would rather he didn't piss them about during their off duty time, because he wasn't going to do it while they were preparing for the next raid.
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LeMay very much did fly Combat Missions during WWII.
He started on B-17's in Europe, then B-29's in China-Burma, then headed up the B-29's out of the Pacific Islands, then later went on to organize the Berlin Air Lift Operations before becoming SAC Commander ultimately winding up as Air Force Chief of Staff.
One might note he was quite right in his opposition to the Air War Strategy during the Vietnam War.....although he found himself on the wrong side during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Say what you will, but he was very instrumental in the creation of the US Air Forces Nuclear Deterrent Forces being an early advocate of Missiles as well as Manned Aircraft.
He was controversial to say the least but then most Men of his position were.
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/...ce/p/lemay.htm
He started on B-17's in Europe, then B-29's in China-Burma, then headed up the B-29's out of the Pacific Islands, then later went on to organize the Berlin Air Lift Operations before becoming SAC Commander ultimately winding up as Air Force Chief of Staff.
One might note he was quite right in his opposition to the Air War Strategy during the Vietnam War.....although he found himself on the wrong side during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Say what you will, but he was very instrumental in the creation of the US Air Forces Nuclear Deterrent Forces being an early advocate of Missiles as well as Manned Aircraft.
He was controversial to say the least but then most Men of his position were.
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/...ce/p/lemay.htm
How did the arming sequence on our V Force compare with the "19 steps"?
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Well considering our system starting off by the PM using the AA radio network to issue his launch command, everything's going to be downhill from there on compared to the Americans I'm sure!
How did the arming sequence on our V Force compare with the "19 steps"?
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Say what you will, but he was very instrumental in the creation of the US Air Forces Nuclear Deterrent Forces being an early advocate of Missiles as well as Manned Aircraft.
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Some background to the Manned Bomber Program of the USAF.
Post WWII, the Department of War and Navy were replaced by the DOD. Massive budget cuts necessary to return to Peace Time levels caused a severe fight between the Military Services.
After it was all said and done, with the Korean War turning some political positions upside down, we wound up with the current organization and array of weapon systems.
When missiles came along we saw a smaller but just as serious conflict between the Navy, Air Force, and Army over who would control the Missiles.
The is still an ongoing peeing match between the Air Force and Army over Fixed Wing Aircraft and CAS missions.
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Post WWII, the Department of War and Navy were replaced by the DOD. Massive budget cuts necessary to return to Peace Time levels caused a severe fight between the Military Services.
After it was all said and done, with the Korean War turning some political positions upside down, we wound up with the current organization and array of weapon systems.
When missiles came along we saw a smaller but just as serious conflict between the Navy, Air Force, and Army over who would control the Missiles.
The is still an ongoing peeing match between the Air Force and Army over Fixed Wing Aircraft and CAS missions.
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I like the scene in the war room, where everyone is looking glum and serious and George C Scott is asked if the B52 stood any chance of getting through - meaning it would be bad news. Then the Scott character loses it and sticks his arms out and gets all enthusiastic;
"You gotta remember its a big bird and ........"
Oh and the other one is Mandrake ordering the Sargent to shoot the cocacola machine to get change to call the whitehouse;
"Well okay, but you gotta answer to the Cocacola Company!"
Roger
"You gotta remember its a big bird and ........"
Oh and the other one is Mandrake ordering the Sargent to shoot the cocacola machine to get change to call the whitehouse;
"Well okay, but you gotta answer to the Cocacola Company!"
Roger
I'm sure that 'General Jack Beringer' in the movie WarGames was also based on LeMay.
Some excellent quotes in that movie - I liked the General's succinct summary of the ridiculous 'WOPR' automated ICBM launch system as explained to its designer McKittrick:
Some excellent quotes in that movie - I liked the General's succinct summary of the ridiculous 'WOPR' automated ICBM launch system as explained to its designer McKittrick:
General Beringer: "Mr. McKittrick, after very careful consideration, sir, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks."
McKittrick: "I don't have to take that, you pig-eyed sack of ****."
General Beringer: "Oh, I was hoping for something a little better than that from you, sir. A man of your education."
McKittrick: "I don't have to take that, you pig-eyed sack of ****."
General Beringer: "Oh, I was hoping for something a little better than that from you, sir. A man of your education."
but the shadow of the B-17 when they were flying low over Siberia (?) wasn't
The choice of Slim Pickens as a late replacement for the Major Kong was inspired.
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The choice of Slim Pickens as a late replacement for the Major Kong was inspired.
He had never been out of the States before and didn't have a passport! The producers had to obtain one on a rush basis.
He had never been out of the States before and didn't have a passport! The producers had to obtain one on a rush basis.
Inspired is the word.
Didn't the 'Airplane' movie people pull the same B17 shadow gag? Sometimes it was a 707 shadow with B17 sound and sometimes a B17 with jet sounds?
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