12 year engagements
That question has been asked a number of times with no satisfactory answer to date.
Clearly one side does not want an automatic extension offer whilst the other side of the debate is watching the haemorrhaging of manpower, the forecast deficit of aircrew and desperately wants to restore confidence in the system.
It would hurt the PAS system somewhat if those currently serving had no offer to serve to the new pension point.
Clearly one side does not want an automatic extension offer whilst the other side of the debate is watching the haemorrhaging of manpower, the forecast deficit of aircrew and desperately wants to restore confidence in the system.
It would hurt the PAS system somewhat if those currently serving had no offer to serve to the new pension point.
5F6B asks a very simple and very obvious question. I really find it quite disturbing that if the same question has been asked several times, there is no satisfactory answer out on the streets.
This smacks of both a half thought out idea with half unkown solutions. Not a good place to be with NEM being imminent!
This smacks of both a half thought out idea with half unkown solutions. Not a good place to be with NEM being imminent!
I got the impression the RAF was pushing for the maximum number of extensions whilst elements in the MoD were pushing back. I also understand that the RAF had their transitional arrangement in draft well ahead of the RN and Army. Some people are working very hard to get the right deal to keep the 'offer' attractive; it's not over yet.
Still, it is of great concern with less the 11 months to go that the final pension arrangements are not sorted and that so little of the NEM is finalised.
Still, it is of great concern with less the 11 months to go that the final pension arrangements are not sorted and that so little of the NEM is finalised.
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Was chatting to the Sqn Ldr who works in the NEM area at AIR, last week, about the transitional aspects in the new engagement structures. Basically 2 IBNs about to go live. One details (as much as they can at this stage) the new structures from 1 Apr 15 and the other the details about the alignment offers to get a whole bunch of SP to LOS 12 (about 10000 people).
The LOS 12 bit is being done now because they have the authority in existing structures to go with it. A team have been stood up to manage the process of getting the letters out (similar to the EDP extensions) and the unit clerks are going to AIR this week to get the in brief. Apparently there is a big push on this element as they need to get a whole load of offers out there before August so they can inform the training targets for 2015.
The new engagements they hope to offer to everyone where it is favourable for the individual in the Autumn - they have to wait until Parliament approves the structures in the Summer - so, for example, if you commissioned after age 25+, and now a Sqn Ldr, then you get offered LOS 30 (the new structure) as it will be more favourable. There are about a dozen nuances they are looking to action across all ranks.
As for age 60 - they aren't expecting to offer this (to the current cadre of SP) until at least late next year as there is some considerable modelling to do in order to get this right. Too many offers and it could log jam promotion flows for some time.
The impression I get is that the NEM team are working really hard to try and get the best deal they can for the Air Force, despite some severe obstacles (for example he is the only one in the team at the moment which just seems mad to me).
The LOS 12 bit is being done now because they have the authority in existing structures to go with it. A team have been stood up to manage the process of getting the letters out (similar to the EDP extensions) and the unit clerks are going to AIR this week to get the in brief. Apparently there is a big push on this element as they need to get a whole load of offers out there before August so they can inform the training targets for 2015.
The new engagements they hope to offer to everyone where it is favourable for the individual in the Autumn - they have to wait until Parliament approves the structures in the Summer - so, for example, if you commissioned after age 25+, and now a Sqn Ldr, then you get offered LOS 30 (the new structure) as it will be more favourable. There are about a dozen nuances they are looking to action across all ranks.
As for age 60 - they aren't expecting to offer this (to the current cadre of SP) until at least late next year as there is some considerable modelling to do in order to get this right. Too many offers and it could log jam promotion flows for some time.
The impression I get is that the NEM team are working really hard to try and get the best deal they can for the Air Force, despite some severe obstacles (for example he is the only one in the team at the moment which just seems mad to me).
As for age 60 - they aren't expecting to offer this (to the current cadre of SP) until at least late next year as there is some considerable modelling to do in order to get this right. Too many offers and it could log jam promotion flows for some time.
Quite frankly they do not have time to wait another year or so as the deficit, loss rate and poor uptake are problems right now. Once they are gone, they tend to be gone forever….
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Thanks Junket, your NEM knowledge is always appreciated. Any idea whether non commissioned types signed on to 22 years will be 'aligned' to LOS 30 automatically like the 9 to 12 year crowd, or will it continue to be based on promotion/spec sign on?
