The Media "Good Safety Record"
A question
This brings spat brings up an interesting question which I'd like people's thoughts on:
Which CURRENT ac do the services in general have overall airworthiness concerns over.
I take both sides of tourist and betty's little tet a tet, war is risky and ac need to be fit for military purposes if that is what they are procured for but they should also be as safe as they can be. It should be the situation they are put in which is dangerous, not the ac itself.
From historical info and my cr&p memory, Lynx Mk 1, Chinook pre MoK, Nimrod but from the current fleet I'm curious.
Any thoughts?
Which CURRENT ac do the services in general have overall airworthiness concerns over.
I take both sides of tourist and betty's little tet a tet, war is risky and ac need to be fit for military purposes if that is what they are procured for but they should also be as safe as they can be. It should be the situation they are put in which is dangerous, not the ac itself.
From historical info and my cr&p memory, Lynx Mk 1, Chinook pre MoK, Nimrod but from the current fleet I'm curious.
Any thoughts?
I am given to understand the 'seaworthiness' of the UK Apache was/is a bit questionable - from concerns noted during/after Op Ellamy. Depends on whether they have now fitted flotation gear and improved canopy jettison, or are those improvements dependent on the future upgrade programme ? LFH
A fair point Flash but that's us using kit for one purpose which it was not designed for (maritime ops). The AH is a very good design for what it was designed to do (land ops and destroying the enemy with a variety of weapons)? It also has fail safes inherent in the design.
Not disagreeing that the situation (water ops) we put it in was very unsafe, it was, I'm that I'm not sure the fault lies with the manufacturer here.
I'm thinking of a long list of technical issues which call an airworthiness certificate (or whatever it's called today) into question.
Not disagreeing that the situation (water ops) we put it in was very unsafe, it was, I'm that I'm not sure the fault lies with the manufacturer here.
I'm thinking of a long list of technical issues which call an airworthiness certificate (or whatever it's called today) into question.
I would suggest that if serving military personnel have genuine concerns about the airworthiness of current military aircraft there are far more professional ways to address the issue than to post anonymously on an internet forum!
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In Special Report: ‘The Widow Maker’, ITV Westcountry’s popular investigative current affairs series reveals a disturbing picture behind the safety record of Britain’s Lynx helicopter fleet – an aircraft dubbed by some pilots and families, as The Widow Maker.
During a three-month investigation, producer/director Ray Tostevin talked to aircrews and their families and leading aviation experts. One former Royal Navy Lynx pilot tells the programme he believes tail rotor failure was the most likely cause of a crash in which four Lynx crewmen died, when their aircraft went down off Cornwall, last December. The programme claims that the Lynx has more tail rotor failures than any other military helicopter operated by the Ministry of Defence, based on a damning report from the Civil Aviation Authority.
During a three-month investigation, producer/director Ray Tostevin talked to aircrews and their families and leading aviation experts. One former Royal Navy Lynx pilot tells the programme he believes tail rotor failure was the most likely cause of a crash in which four Lynx crewmen died, when their aircraft went down off Cornwall, last December. The programme claims that the Lynx has more tail rotor failures than any other military helicopter operated by the Ministry of Defence, based on a damning report from the Civil Aviation Authority.
Thread Starter
Well from all of the replies, I think we can deduce that Lynx does not have a "extremely good safety record" - at best it is in the "top third" but probably more likely "average".
Melmoth - if you are a journo, please ask your chums to aspire to quality reporting. And while we're at it, can you only quote Suitably Qualified and Experienced Persons (SQEPs) and not some idiot outside Poundland giving a soundbite on something they know c0ck all about. I want quality journalism, not comedy journalism!
iRaven
Melmoth - if you are a journo, please ask your chums to aspire to quality reporting. And while we're at it, can you only quote Suitably Qualified and Experienced Persons (SQEPs) and not some idiot outside Poundland giving a soundbite on something they know c0ck all about. I want quality journalism, not comedy journalism!
iRaven
not some idiot outside Poundland giving a soundbite on something they know c0ck all about.
Only joking(ish). Offer your services iRaven. I'm sure we'd all love to hear what experts such as yourself have to say.
Melmothtw
I can assure you I am absolutely not a journalist, merely an ex mil pilot now working for a major RW operator with a few mins a day to spare to find out what's happening in the pprune world.
Idle curiosity is my major flaw, not being a journo.
I can assure you I am absolutely not a journalist, merely an ex mil pilot now working for a major RW operator with a few mins a day to spare to find out what's happening in the pprune world.
Idle curiosity is my major flaw, not being a journo.
Fair enough nowherespecial, i was just being facetious. No offence intended (as I know that being called a journalist can be as be about as flattering as being labelled a paedo in some circles, not least on PPrune).